RE: Comments

Hi Joshua,

I'm learning to be an expert in ODRL but am not yet. But based on my 
existing understanding, the question mark makes things complicated, 
because it can be interpreted in any of the three ways: (e.g., "can you 
access this?", where "you" is the agent)

1. A *verification/proof* of the agent saying the agent can access which 
range of data (with which set of policies, same below);

2. A *request* from the agent wanting to access a range of data;

3. A *process* for the user/system to verify that the agent can access a 
range of data.


Not sure which one is the context referring to? It appears to be 
inconsistent.


Actually, this relates to a question I have for ODRL: how can I 
represent a *request* saying I want to access a certain range of data 
*and* the corresponding rules I will follow? It appears there is no such 
a subclass of `Policy` to represent this? (I see the `Request` class in 
the GH issue linked, but it is not in the standard ODRL 2.2 terminology, 
right?)


Best,

Rui


*From:* Víctor Rodríguez Doncel <vrodriguez@fi.upm.es>

*Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2025 at 11:16 AM UTC+1

*To:* public-odrl@w3.org

*Subject:* RE: Comments


> Hi Joshua,
>
> Well, from the figure alone I can get no full understanding --and I am 
> afraid I don't know the OICD technology...
> I understand Open ID for Verifiable Credentials is part of the EUDI 
> Wallet Architecture, but I don't know what is the role of ODRL --maybe 
> you or Beatriz, if she knows more, can present the framework during 
> one meeting...
>
> Regards,
> Víctor
>
> El 16/05/2025 a las 16:25, Joshua Cornejo escribió:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Aiming at clarifying some language for consistency, OIDC uses the 
>> term “authorisation” to cover the “can you access this” and to a 
>> limited extent “what can you do inside”.
>>
>> This is in monitoring or access control for an agent, not upstream 
>> contract negotiation (not converting odrl:Offer -> odrl:Agreement 
>> <https://github.com/w3c/odrl/issues/110>).
>>
>> Comments/thoughts appreciated.
>>
>> ___________________________________
>>
>> *Joshua Cornejo*
>>
>> *marketdata <https://www.marketdata.md/>*
>>
>> smart authorisation management for the AI-era
>>
>
> -- 
> Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
> D2110 - Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
> ETS de Ingenieros Informáticos
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
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Rui Zhao
Postdoc @ EWADA (Ethical Web And Data Architecutres in the Age of AI)
Human-Centred Computing, Dept. Computer Science
University of Oxford
https://me.ryey.icu