- From: Alapan <alapan@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 21:01:27 +0200
- To: Lucinda Lewis <cindy.lewis@me.com>
- Cc: "public-odrl@w3.org Group" <public-odrl@w3.org>, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com>
- Message-ID: <CACR6ppcGyf4EKS7=XADTQ8qvL+J4NYF69b3whBj2ono2ymS26w@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Cindy, Almost correct - I think the role as defined in the partly element itself should provide the "Education" context - e.g. student, teacher, etc. There are different ways of implementing this - you could just authenticate the role based on the identity provider (e.g. it is a recognised university, then it is accepted), or it is part of the role definition in the authentication context itself. The main point I was bringing out - was that this doesn't require specific vocabulary to be built into the language, but rather managed in the party/role definitions. The use case could then extend much further. Using the use case of the media for example, a work could be restricted to journalists as a role - and the restriction enforced by the identity provider from various journalism accreditation points (be it the publisher like Reuters, BBC etc) or press accreditation bodies. Alapan Blog: http://idiots-mind.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Life's a gamble - take a chance On 9 April 2015 at 20:53, Lucinda Lewis <cindy.lewis@me.com> wrote: > Alapan, > > In your example, the license could be commerial (ex. a textbook publisher > licensing a book to a school), with Education as a party element and a > student occupying the Role. > > Is that correct? If I understood you correctly, I agree. > > An educational license could also be non-commercial. > > Cindy > > On Apr 9, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Alapan <alapan@gmail.com> wrote: > > One comment - I don't think "Education" should be a constraint in this way > described in this thread. Rather, the license should restrict usage to a > "education" role in the party element. In this way, should the user be an > education user, then they would be able to provide some form of credential > that confirms they satisfy the requirement. > > A physical world example would be student discounts - which are granted on > the presentation of a student card. > > I think this would extend to any similar form of restrictions - e.g. > religious use would be a confirmation of a user that has a religious role. > I admit, this then places the onus on the identity provider - but that also > has a real world assistance, as this approach means that the user is > verified and authenticated correctly (so the student can't use education > use if they are no longer a student). > > Blog: http://idiots-mind.blogspot.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Life's a gamble - take a chance > > On 9 April 2015 at 14:15, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote: > >> >> > On 7 Apr 2015, at 11:02 pm, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> >> wrote: >> > >> > Interjecting briefly: the issue with all of these is that they’re really >> > poorly-defined, legally-speaking, and even when one can arrive at a >> > definition, the definition varies quite significantly by jurisdiction, >> so >> > it’s really difficult to specify what ‘educational use’ means. >> >> True - and it is not *our* role to provide legally-binding contractual >> terms per jurisdiction ;-) >> Communities-of-use will provide that level of assurance (together with >> their local jurisdiction-based laws). >> >> It maybe useful for us to collect terms that the wider community proposes >> as potentially "common" to address interoperability. >> We would create a page on the community site for this purpose with URIs >> for test purposes only. >> >> Cheers... >> Renato Iannella >> Semantic Identity http://semanticidentity.com +61 4 1313 2206 >> Chair, W3C ODRL Community Group http://www.w3.org/community/odrl/ >> >> >> > >
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