- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:31:53 +0100
- To: public-mwts@w3.org
Hi,
The minutes of our teleconf today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html
linked from:
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.
Dom
Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
25 Nov 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0010.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
wilhelm, Dom, Kai, Dmitri
Regrets
Carmelo
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Widgets Testing
2. [6]Cookies test suite
3. [7]Device Independent Testing Guidelines
4. [8]Web Compatibility Test
5. [9]Agreement on test suites with OMA
6. [10]Rechartering
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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Widgets Testing
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to raise visibility on Kai's work on widgets to
the WebAppS WG Chairs [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Raise visibility on Kai's work on
widgets to the WebAppS WG Chairs [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]
[on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2008-12-02].
[13] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to follow up on widgets testing with Kai
[recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01
Wilhelm: we're going to release our widget testing framework
... in about a week, after we are done cleaning up
Kai: fantastic!
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review Kai's work on widgets testing
[recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
[15] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04
<dom_scribe> [16]Dom's review on Kai's tests for widgets
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0014.html
Kai: I'm assuming I'll be able to move my tests to Opera's WTF
framework
Wilhelm: yes, I think that should be possible ; the framework takes
a config file as input and then does the right thing
... I'll first submit it to Kai, but the plan is to have the tool
open-sourced in the end
Cookies test suite
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for
cookies [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04
Wilhelm: still working on it
Device Independent Testing Guidelines
<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to update the di guidelines based on the
comments received so far [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2008/10/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review the di guidelines [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to contribute to the di guidelines (an
example?) [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11
Kai: I tried to come up with examples for each point
... but they are so similar, it is a bit difficult to know how to
proceed
<scribe> Agenda:
[22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0010.htm
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[22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0010.html
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: hard to come up with canonical examples
... I've looked into Hixie's and Henry Sivonen's tests, and I'm
trying to extract something from them
Wilhelm: maybe you can already send what you've extracted so far
Dom: feel free to send comments if you think the document needs
improvements in terms of structure
Web Compatibility Test
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to investigate why IE Mobile fais the cookies
test [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action06
<dom_scribe> [24]Kai's report
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0005.html
Kai: still don't know how I got it to fail the first time
... it now passes in any case
<wilhelm> heisenbug
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to provide test cases showing actual usage
of contenteditable and inputmode for IE Mobile testing [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07
<dom_scribe> [26]inputmode test
[26] http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/inputmode.html
<dom_scribe> [27]contenteditable test
[27] http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/contenteditable.html
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to verify IE mobile with new
inputmode/contenteditable tests [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to propose a first "draft" of the white paper
on WCTMB [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING]
[29] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14
Kai: I'm not sure what to do any more
... I was thinking to do this as a blog format
... with findings going out a week at a time
Dom: I'm fine with a blog, as long as we can gather something up as
a WG Note
Kai: let's start with the blog format, and compile it up at the end
... I can draft the first blog by the end of this week
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to send details on his idea for a local blog
system to Dom [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
Agreement on test suites with OMA
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
[recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING]
[31] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15
Dom: contacted our OMA liaison; waiting to hear feedback from them
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[PENDING]
[32] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16
Wilhelm: I've started to look into this; I've found most of the
relevant points, but am waiting to get the actual information to be
extracted
Rechartering
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to suggest improved wording for the charter
[recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action17] [DONE]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action17
<dom_scribe> [34]Kai's comments
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0009.html
Kai: a bit concerned about 'adaption', hence my reaction; "suited"
sounds fine :)
Dom: OK with the current charter then?
Kai: yeah, thanks for updating it
Wilhelm: I think the charter covers most things needed
<hendry> whoa, that was quick :)
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to send details on his idea for a local blog
system to Dom [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to verify IE mobile with new
inputmode/contenteditable tests [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
[recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to contribute to the di guidelines (an
example?) [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to propose a first "draft" of the white paper
on WCTMB [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for
cookies [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to follow up on widgets testing with Kai
[recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhelm to review the di guidelines [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
[recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[37] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15
[38] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[39] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action11
[40] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action14
[41] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[42] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01
[43] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10
[44] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to update the di guidelines based on the
comments received so far [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to raise visibility on Kai's work on widgets to
the WebAppS WG Chairs [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to review Kai's work on widgets testing [recorded
in [47]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to investigate why IE Mobile fais the cookies
test [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to suggest improved wording for the charter
[recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action17]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to provide test cases showing actual usage of
contenteditable and inputmode for IE Mobile testing [recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[45] http://www.w3.org/2008/10/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[46] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action02
[47] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[48] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action06
[49] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action17
[50] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[End of minutes]
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