- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:43:51 +0100
- To: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
- Message-ID: <511CEA17.6010107@w3.org>
Hi Christian, I will take care of this, by filling in this template. See also http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0022.html http://www.w3.org/2012/05/wiki2spec/wiki2spec-parameters.html I can't give the "this version" URI yet, since I have other stuff to do with deadline monday. But here are my thoughts on the below: Am 14.02.13 13:59, schrieb Lieske, Christian: > > Hi Felix, > > Looking at > > http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/index.php?title=Use_cases_-_high_level_summary&printable=yes > > I was wondering if the publication as a first draft would also require > things such as > > 1."This version", "Latest Version" > Again, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0022.html http://www.w3.org/TR/mlw-metadata-uc-impl "Metadata for the Multilingual Web - Use Cases and Implementations" > 2.Editors > I would put you as editor and have a seperate section "authors", listing all people who are contributing to implementations. > 3."Abstract", "About this Document" > I can take care of "about this document". If you or somebody wants to take care of the abstract it would be great. Otherwise I'll do it too. > 4.Change from Wiki markup to (X)HTML > See above. After the template is ready this is only a klick. Best, Felix > If so: How and by when would this need to be addressed? > > Cheers, > > Christian > > *From:*Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] > *Sent:* Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2013 17:26 > *To:* public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org > *Subject:* [Minutes, action items and "use cases" high level summary] > 2013-02-13 > > Hi all, > > Minutes of today's call are at > http://www.w3.org/2013/02/13-mlw-lt-minutes.html > and below as text. We re-distributed a lot of action items. All, > please have a look and protest if you don't get to doing your action > items. Esp. at Yves and Jirka: we gave you various co-editing related > action items, please have a look. > > > We also discussed the upcoming publication of > http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Use_cases_-_high_level_summary > Christian noted that the subsections related to implementations, e.g. > http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Use_cases_-_high_level_summary#More_Information_and_Implementation_Status.2FIssues_2 > might become out of date over time. So before finalizing the > publication (note that the upcoming publication is only a first > draft), we should decide what to do about these subsections. > > Best, > > Felix > > [1]W3C > > [1]http://www.w3.org/ > > - DRAFT - > > MLW-lT Phone call 13,2,2013 13.00 UTC > > 13 Feb 2013 > > See also: [2]IRC log > > [2]http://www.w3.org/2013/02/13-mlw-lt-irc > > Attendees > > Present > Ankit, DaveLewis, Karl, shaunm, leroy, omstefanov, > philr, Naoto, felix, dF, Milan, Pedro, tadej, cweins > > Regrets > jirka, Dom, Jorge, Yves, Pablo > > Chair > daveL > > Scribe > omstefanov > > Contents > > * [3]Topics > 1. [4]1) Action item and issue re-distribution > * [5]Summary of Action Items > __________________________________________________________ > > 1) Action item and issue re-distribution > > <daveL_> > [6]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-l > t/2013Feb/0066.html > > [6]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0066.html > > [7]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/open > > [7]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/open > > [8]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/is > sues/open > > [8]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/open > > <daveL_> > [9]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/open > > [9]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/open > > We start with open action items. > > DaveL says lots are assigned to Felix, so we need volunteers to > help > > Action-215 (Generate a sample of testing involving XLIFF) David > Filip has prepared some samples. > > At last meeting it was decided we need more samples, daveL made > some, with Leroy, and after testing they will be put up > > daveL is closing action item 215 > > Action-251 (make the necessary steps for the mime type section > during last call mentioned at > [10]http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype) to Felix > still open > > [10]http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype) > > Action 277 (Color-code cells in Mappings table dependent on > unstable ITS categories or in XLIFF) to David Filip is still > ongoing as we still need work on XLIFF > > <trackbot> Error finding '277'. You can review and register > nicknames at > <[11]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/u > sers>. > > [11]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/users%3E. > > DaveL is willing to take over Action-310 (Go through the > document and check data category naming (capital first letter > plus hyperlink) > > <fsasaki> > [12]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/310 now daveL > > [12]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/310 > > Action-333 (Check if the tables in the draft can get a caption > and numbering (might need change to odd and xslt) DaveL is > asking whether anyone other than Felix, from editors is on the > call. > > <daveL_> > [13]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/333 > > [13]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/333 > > Shaunm will take over Action-333 > > <fsasaki> > [14]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/333 now shaun > > [14]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/333 > > Jirka has agreed to take over action-341 (check syntax > highlighting of html examples with focus on quotes) > > ACTION-356 (Draft non-normative definition of "annotation") > sill open with Christian L > > <fsasaki> > [15]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/341 now jirka > > [15]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/341 > > Action-377 (provide rewrite of section 1 and 2 by mid Jan, > taking editoral comments in issue-61 into account) > > David F to get involved with Action-377 (with Christian L) > > ACTION-378 (provide an example for clarified "uncategorized" > quality issue type value, see 2) at > [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb- > lt-comments/2012Dec/0022.html and issue-60) with Arle L - DaveL > believes this is resolved > > [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2012Dec/0022.html > > Felix indicates that Arle wanted to make a clarification. Still > needs to be implemented (the clarification) > > Action-379 (provide an update of the mapping "quality issue > type values to existing tool values", see 3) at > [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb- > lt-comments/2012Dec/0022.html and issue-60) > > [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2012Dec/0022.html > > This is a non-normative topic that still needs to be updated > (by Arle) > > <fsasaki> > [18]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/381 now daveL > > [18]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/381 > > Action-381: DaveL is willing to take over from Felix. (Come > back to "relation between data categories" examples mentioned > at > [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb- > lt/2012Dec/0088.html) > > [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Dec/0088.html) > > <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-381 Come back to "relation > between data categories" examples mentioned at > [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb- > lt/2012Dec/0088.html. > > [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Dec/0088.html. > > Action-385 (Shaun McC) Work on regex for validating regex > subset proposal) > > On this, Felix had errors using Oxygen. Shaun will look in. > > Action-389 (Felix) (Change example on its-tool-annotation). > DaveL will take over from Felix. > > <fsasaki> > [21]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/389 now daveL > > [21]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/389 > > <fsasaki> > [22]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/390 > > [22]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/390 > > Action-390 (check disambig examples and test suite with regards > to presence of annotatorsRef). Tadej says examples are all > correct. > > omstefanov suggests referring to "disambig" as "text > annotation" throughout further MLW-LT WG > > DaveL says Tadej should assist editors here > > Action-389 - DaveL will take over from Felix > > Action-390 remains open, with Tadej > > Action-392: Make the edit for issue 76. Does anyone know where > Arle is on this. Felix says unclear whether just wording change > or change of implementation. > > <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-392 Make the edit for issue > 76. > > Action-393 (go back to Richard I. about new resolution for > issue-79) DaveL > > <fsasaki> > [23]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i > ssues/79 > > [23]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/79 > > Davel is asking for someone to take over > > Felix says just one sentence needs to be changed, email sent to > Richard. DaveL agrees to take this over > > <fsasaki> > [24]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/394 > > [24]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/394 > > Action-394 (Add links to examples for issue 80) > > <fsasaki> action-394? > > <trackbot> ACTION-394 -- Felix Sasaki to add links to examples > for issue 80 -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [25]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/394 > > [25]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/394 > > <fsasaki> > [26]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i > ssues/80 > > [26]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/80 > > Felix suggests that this needs an editor to do this. > > action-395? > > <trackbot> ACTION-395 -- Felix Sasaki to check what of lang and > xml;lang takes precedence -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [27]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/395 > > [27]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/395 > > <fsasaki> action-395? > > <trackbot> ACTION-395 -- Felix Sasaki to check what of lang and > xml;lang takes precedence -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [28]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/395 > > [28]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/395 > > we discussed this last week. broad conclusion is that wording > is okay. DaveL has followup action to see how this works with > HTML vs. XML > > Felix will keep this action item. > > action-396? > > <trackbot> ACTION-396 -- Ankit Srivastava to create example for > xml;lang / lang -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [29]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/396 > > [29]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/396 > > <fsasaki> action-396? > > <trackbot> ACTION-396 -- Ankit Srivastava to create example for > xml;lang / lang -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [30]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/396 > > [30]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/396 > > <fsasaki> close action-396 > > <trackbot> Closed ACTION-396 Create example for xml;lang / > lang. > > This action should be closed. Has been done. > > action-398? > > <trackbot> ACTION-398 -- Felix Sasaki to answer Richard to > indicate we'll address this with a rule file in BP -- due > 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [31]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/398 > > [31]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/398 > > DaveL is taking this over. > > <fsasaki> > [32]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/398 now daveL > > [32]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/398 > > action-399? > > <trackbot> ACTION-399 -- Felix Sasaki to draft non-normative > section clarifying relations to HTML for issue 89 -- due > 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [33]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/399 > > [33]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/399 > > <daveL_> > [34]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i > ssues/89 > > [34]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/89 > > <daveL_> > [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb- > lt-comments/2013Jan/0071.html > > [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2013Jan/0071.html > > Felix explains that relation between its and HTML5 needs to be > made more clear. > > DaveL asked Christian L whether this could be covered in > Introduction (to its 2.0) > > Christian L says so far he has not written anything about this. > Will do so in next draft, and get persons more knowledgable > with HTML5 to review draft text. > > Should this action (399) be moved to Christian (to do in his > update to Section 1) > > <fsasaki> > [36]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/399 now christianL > > [36]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/399 > > as no objections action 399 to christianL > > Action-400? > > <trackbot> ACTION-400 -- Felix Sasaki to edit the specification > for Language (MUST missing, etc.) -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [37]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/400 > > [37]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/400 > > DaveL says simple edit ("must" missing, etc.) > > To be left pending, as DaveL and Felix cannot find substance of > what needs to be done. > > action-405? > > <trackbot> ACTION-405 -- Felix Sasaki to follow up with > Christian on tekom as an option. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [38]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/405 > > [38]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/405 > > scribe: for a workshop towards the end of the year. Felix will > keep open and follow up. > > action-408? > > <trackbot> ACTION-408 -- Felix Sasaki to ensure that there is > no MUST in any notes. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [39]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/408 > > [39]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/408 > > action-408: to DaveL > > <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-408 Ensure that there is no > MUST in any notes.. > > <fsasaki> > [40]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a > ctions/408 now daveL > > [40]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/408 > > action-412? > > <trackbot> ACTION-412 -- Felix Sasaki to let Norbert know that > issue-95 is out of scope. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [41]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/412 > > [41]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/412 > > action-414: to DaveL > > <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-414 Make edit for issue-100 > and get back to Norbert.. > > will follow up with Norbert > > action-415? > > <trackbot> ACTION-415 -- Felix Sasaki to update unicode > reference for issue-104 -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [42]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/415 > > [42]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/415 > > keep with Felix and keep open > > action-416? > > <trackbot> ACTION-416 -- Karl Fritsche to propose solution to > Norbert and then Felix can add to spec. -- due 2013-01-30 -- > OPEN > > <trackbot> > [43]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/416 > > [43]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/416 > > Karl said a solution was proposed, sent to Norbert, but no > response as of now. > > DaveL asks Karl to send a 2nd reminder (to Norbert). > > needs to be done as spec change > > action-419? > > <trackbot> ACTION-419 -- Jirka Kosek to make schematron tests > described at > [44]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Own > ership_of_rfc2119_statements#Purpose -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > [44]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Ownership_of_rfc2119_statements#Purpose > > <trackbot> > [45]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/419 > > [45]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/419 > > <scribe> pending, as Jirka not on cal > > action-420? > > <trackbot> ACTION-420 -- Felix Sasaki to make edit for > issue-111 -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [46]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/420 > > [46]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/420 > > <fsasaki> > [47]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i > ssues/111 > > [47]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/111 > > <fsasaki> "Implementations MUST NOT combine lists of language > ranges from multiple rules or local attributes." This is not > needed: overriding of ITS information covers this, hence > deleting the sentence. > > action420: to Jirka > > aCTION-412? > > <trackbot> ACTION-412 -- David Lewis to let Norbert know that > issue-95 is out of scope. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [48]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/412 > > [48]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/412 > > quality-related "must" statements. to be kept open for Arle > > action-422? > > <trackbot> ACTION-422 -- Arle Lommel to do copy-editing on the > spec -- due 2013-04-01 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [49]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/422 > > [49]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/422 > > any volunteers to assist, as Arle busy leading up to Rome > > Shaunm volunteers to help > > DaveL says, exclude look at Section 1, but rest, incl. annexes > needs careful read through. > > Shaunm asks about whether changes need to be approved. DaveL > indicates editorial changes do not, anything that changes > meaning does. > > David F points out that this doesn > > 't need to be pushed too hard, as Arle took this over with > deadline in April. > > Felix points out that we now need to concentrate on normative > changes. Editorial changes can wait. > > action-423? > > <trackbot> ACTION-423 -- Felix Sasaki to do edits for issue-113 > -- due 2013-01-31 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [50]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/423 > > [50]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/423 > > <daveL_> > [51]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i > ssues/113 > > [51]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/113 > > Felix suggests giving this to Yves (not on call). > > action-424? > > <trackbot> ACTION-424 -- Arle Lommel to fix section 8.9 note: > "since the extra training resources does not justify the > improvement in the output." -> "since the extra training > resources do not justify the improvement in the output." -- due > 2013-01-31 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [52]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/424 > > [52]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/424 > > leave with Arle > > action-426? > > <trackbot> ACTION-426 -- Arle Lommel to create an indicator for > poster relations -- due 2013-01-31 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [53]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/426 > > [53]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/426 > > DaveL sent out something on this earlier today. > > Wait until reactions. > > action428? > > were going to have separate page, but now want people to update > their links on their use pages > > <fsasaki> > [54]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Use > _cases_-_high_level_summary > > [54]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Use_cases_-_high_level_summary > > asks ChristianL to check other links to see if up-to-date > (implementations of use cases) > > action-429? > > <trackbot> ACTION-429 -- Felix Sasaki to check xliff ITS > mapping namespace hosting in w3c -- due 2013-01-31 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [55]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/429 > > [55]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/429 > > Felix says not urgent for its spec > > can wait > > action430? > > action-430? > > <trackbot> ACTION-430 -- Shaun McCance to draft text explaining > importance of Unicode normalization and best practices on > ISSUE-67 -- due 2013-02-04 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [56]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/ac > tions/430 > > [56]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/430 > > <scribe> ongoing > > Christian asks to spend 2 min on high level use cases > > Christian recommends that we will benefit if using some sort of > template for examples. > > Christian says has largely been done, but sees one discrepancy > > is referring to 3rd part in each section template > > <chriLi> More Information and Implementation Status/Issues > > <chriLi> Detailed slides at , Running software, .... > > in some sections we have detail slides and running software and > source code (not in other?) > > <chriLi> > [57]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Use > _cases_-_high_level_summary#Simple_Machine_Translation > > [57]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Use_cases_-_high_level_summary#Simple_Machine_Translation > > should we have guidance that each and every implementor be > required to do this? > > is this appropriate information to have in a note? > > DaveL suggests that one option is NOT to have it in. > > ChristianL responds that at this point in time this info is > very useful. > > But, ChristianL says he sees how some of this info can become > "stale" over time and thus sees not have it in formal note > > felix suggests leaving a working draft that, before the WG > closes later this year that can be updated later > > <daveL_> ACTION: dlewis6 to send mail instructing use case > writer to include linked to further information and working > prototpyes [recorded in > [58]http://www.w3.org/2013/02/13-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-448 - Send mail instructing use case > writer to include linked to further information and working > prototpyes [on David Lewis - due 2013-02-20]. > > DaveL asks felix whether there is anything else to take over > > <daveL_> olaf made point that flights and hotel in rome are > going quickly > > felix asks whether to skip Monday call > > DaveL suggests that there are issues for Monday. (Tadej and > Christian to report.) DaveL will chair again. > > Felix indicates that there will be NO merging of > datacategories, only levels dropped > > Felix thinks that the name changes can also be accepted as > non-normative. > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: dlewis6 to send mail instructing use case writer > to include linked to further information and working prototpyes > [recorded in > [59]http://www.w3.org/2013/02/13-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01] > > [End of minutes] > __________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [60]scribe.perl version > 1.137 ([61]CVS log) > $Date: 2013-02-13 16:16:04 $ > > [60]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm> > [61]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ > >
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