- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:40:12 +0200
- To: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>
- Cc: Moritz Hellwig <Moritz.Hellwig@cocomore.com>, "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAL58czq8J5WmjdQ5uHrs4-6Y7CNXc9WbH0KO8O_XScSXVPisYA@mail.gmail.com>
(co-chair hat on) Dave, all, I know that there is interest in the group about the process model topic, but we shouldn't do step two before we are sure about step one: There are lot's of missing pieces in the current ITS 2.0 draft, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Jun/0133.html and there are lots of data categories that need input in the upcoming weeks, see http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Implementation_Commitments Please, use your time (I know that everybody is busy before the summer break) to fill these gaps asap, before moving other (even non normative) discussions forward. I esp. disagree with putting effort into "To go forward in firming up these definitions, I propose we add some input and output plus some conditions on these", before the gaps mentioned above are filled. Thanks, Felix 2012/6/25 Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie> > Hi Moritz, > Thanks for following up on this action, which addresses the ongoing > ISSUE-6 - let keep discussion under this thread. > > First we should remember the role such a model should play in ITS2.0, > specifically we need process values for both the readiness and the progress > data categories. These values should also be used in a consistent way for > the value of the activity object in the PROV WG proposed for stand-off > provenance mark-up. > > However, as discussed in Dublin, this is a complex topic with lots of > different views, so we are not aiming for a normative outcome, but some > best practice document to accompany ITS2.0. > > To facilitate this I suggest we capture process definition separately and > hopefully agree a common set of process names using wiki page: > > http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Metadata_and_workflow_comparison > > but do this in parallel to, and therefore not holding up, the normative > data category definitions. > > I've moved Pedro's suggested process names onto this page but reworked > them to: > - provide names the might be more broadly accessible, and in the style of > data categories (i.e. with hyphens rather than camel case) > - provide a little more in terms of process definition > - add a few processes I thought were missing > - group under some headings, again to help communicate between different > viewpoints, and provided some further structure through suggested subclass > relationship between some process definitions. > > To go forward in firming up these definitions, I propose we add some input > and output plus some conditions on these. Then we can rerun the exercise > Arle started with the included table to cross referencing these again CRUD > usage of data categories. > > At this point then, I'd asked interested people to review this page and > either provide comments/revisions to existing processes or suggest other > one we need. > > cheers, > Dave > > > > On 22/06/2012 17:17, Moritz Hellwig wrote: > > Hello,**** > > ** ** > > in Dublin we talked about processes and whether we can find a common > (basic) set of processes that we can use for ITS 2.0. So I’d like to > trigger a discussion to find if we can agree on such an ontology. I think > it was Pedro who was kind enough to provide two models and a set of > processes we can discuss: > http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Requirements#Process_Model > **** > > ** ** > > I favour Model 1. And I think there definitely should be a difference > between processes that apply to the target, the source or both.**** > > ** ** > > Could we take the models and list as a model and collect which processes > are needed from your side? Or can maybe be omitted?**** > > ** ** > > Cheers, > Moritz**** > > ** ** > > > > -- Felix Sasaki DFKI / W3C Fellow
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