- From: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>
- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:28:11 +0100
- To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- CC: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
- Message-ID: <4FE1A5BB.4070306@cs.tcd.ie>
> Hi Felix, > Just to be clear and properly synchronised, by November 2012, for > example, do we mean the beginning or the end of November? > > > That we can decide on our own. That's good, so can we say here and now that the MLW-LT WG interprets all these charter dates to means the _end_ of the month? Any objections to that? > > So the key point is that all our technical specification, > implementation and testing work must be completed by March, i.e. > we really need to focus any effort we have planned for MLW-LT in > the period from now to March'13. > > > Exactly. As for the "working mode", please have a look at the charter > http://www.w3.org/2011/12/mlw-lt-charter.html > "Effective participation to MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group is > expected to consume one work day per week for each participant" > That does not mean "working on MLW-LT on Monday only", but rather > "allocating each day about an hour to follow discussions, do action > items, help to resolve issues etc.". It's esp. important that the > implementors use this time to bring their experience to the working > group - that experience should drive our process. > that's clear, so people who are involved more to implement code than to specify documents, their effort will need to be concentrated over the next 8 months for it to influence the W3C process effectively. cheers, Dave > Felix > > > cheers, > Dave > > > > > > > On 19/06/2012 17:47, Felix Sasaki wrote: >> Hi Moritz, >> >> the W3C process works on the basis of "if people don't object, we >> move forward". For important steps like finalizing the standard, >> there is a lot of time to review things. See the timeline >> described at >> http://www.w3.org/2011/12/mlw-lt-charter.html >> 2.2 Milestones. You need to put these dates into your calendar: >> - May 2012: publish a first draft of ITS .20. This is what we are >> doing now. If you don't have time to review the draft, that's >> fine - there are plenty of opportunities to update it later. >> - November 2012: publish a last call draft. This is the most >> serious deadline: the draft needs to be 100% feature complete. >> That includes detailed definitions of features, that is having >> "empty" sections like >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#Domain >> filled in like >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#terminology >> with consensus of the whole group. Please put this deadline into >> your calendar with a red pen: by November your company and all >> partners need to work on getting consensus. >> - Before November 2012, btw, we will publish a lot of updated >> working drafts, just to demonstrate change to the wider public. >> - For the other deadlines after November: CR means implementation >> testing, PR means a final view on the document from the W3C >> membership. These are serious deadlines too, but again there is >> more time. >> >> So you and the other participants should always have the charter >> in mind, that's it. >> >> 2012/6/19 Moritz Hellwig <Moritz.Hellwig@cocomore.com >> <mailto:Moritz.Hellwig@cocomore.com>> >> >> Hello Felix, >> >> I’ll try to look at it tomorrow, but a three-day deadline to >> check and revise such a document is a bit short notice. >> >> >> Why do you want to read the whole document? We said since about >> 1/2 a year ago that we will create a successor of ITS 1.0 - and >> in the mail at >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Jun/0073.html >> I sent out the diff to ITS 1.0. I am sure that you took the time >> and had a look at ITS 1.0; so now you only need to look at the diff >> http://tinyurl.com/boedr9c >> >> If you have more such deadlines in mind for the future, could >> you provide dates for that. >> >> >> The dates for publications of updated working drafts will >> continue to come on a short notice, with about a week notice. >> Important is that you have a look at the DIFF and the list of >> changes. >> >> A list of dates would be enough for me to put in my calendar. >> >> >> See above, we will only have the "global" dates. >> >> I think you know the W3C process more than anybody else in >> the consortium so it would be great if you could maybe >> clarify all these deadlines, how they work, what the next >> phase means for the draft / project and so on. I think this >> would also help the other LT-Web partners to understand how >> the process works as most of the members do not know it at all. >> >> >> Does above explanation help you? If not, please let me know, I'm >> more than happy to provide more info. >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >> Cheers, >> >> Moritz >> >> *Von:*Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org >> <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>] >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 18. Juni 2012 03:09 >> *An:* public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org >> <mailto:public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org> >> *Betreff:* [All] ITS 2.0 first draft, please review by Thursday >> >> Hi all, >> >> after the great success of our workshop last week, let's go >> into the next round :) >> >> See the editors copy of ITS 2.0 at >> >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html >> >> and, not in the editors copy, the status section at >> >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/TR-version/#status >> >> ITS 2.0 is based on ITS 1.0, see the changes done so far at >> >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#revisionlog >> >> I am sure I forgot *a lot*, but we want to get a first draft >> out soon, so this should be a basis. By Thursday, please >> reply *to this thread* and >> >> - Let me know what to change >> >> - Propose additions (paragraphs, sections etc.), if possible >> with detailed wording >> >> I will then implement your proposals on Friday and issue a >> call for consensus on Monday next week, so that we can >> publish 28 July. >> >> What we need from now on (not necessarily for the first >> publication) are: >> >> - Test data, which serves also as examples, see e.g. >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-term-local-html-1 >> >> >> - Descriptions of the data categories, following the approach >> of the ITS 1.0 existing ones. Again, detailed wording is very >> much appreciated >> >> - Detailed wordings for all our issues we resolved already, >> e.g. the algorithms for generating RDFa / NIF, the query >> language attribute etc. >> >> Thanks a lot for your contributions in advance! A word at >> Arle, Dave and Jirka: I will come back to you offline about >> editing - as Jirka knows, the setup is based on XML, for the >> sake of coherence etc. But you will get used to that soon, >> I'm sure. >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >> -- >> Felix Sasaki >> >> DFKI / W3C Fellow >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Felix Sasaki >> DFKI / W3C Fellow >> > > > > > -- > Felix Sasaki > DFKI / W3C Fellow >
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