- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:53:42 +0100
- To: Somnath Chandra <schandra@deity.gov.in>
- CC: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>, slata@mit.gov.in, public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org, Sebastian Hellmann <hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, Manoj Jain <mjain@deity.gov.in>
- Message-ID: <511A0316.80908@w3.org>
Thanks, Somnath. FYI, I have subscribed you to the public-multilingualweb-lt-comments list, so that your mails get through. At moment I cannot give more directions than to propose you to start writing :) Would it be ok for you to join the working group, to move things forward easier? Best, Felix Am 12.02.13 07:02, schrieb Somnath Chandra: > Hello Felix, Dave and Others, > Thanks for your very encouraging respose. Your ideas are appropriate > to take up the matter in a timebound way. We have already mobilized > the language technology researchers in India and would develop the > best pratices document quickly and would be in active collaboration > with you all. While developing the best practices , we shall also > capture the linguistic nuances for different languages (22 > constitutionally recognized Indian languages) and their requirements. > Looking forward for your further direction. > With best regards, > Somnath > On 02/12/13, *Felix Sasaki *<fsasaki@w3.org> wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, all, >> >> Am 11.02.13 16:00, schrieb Dave Lewis: >>> Hi Somnath, >>> thanks you for your response. Your input into best practices would >>> be warmly weclome by the group. i think this would split into two >>> potential parts; >>> 1) producing a best practice for NIF usage in the context of typical >>> workflows that would use ITS >>> 2) if during (1) the expressiveness of NIF was found wanting, you >>> may want to engage directly with the NIF community. >>> >>> I'd ask Felix and Sebastien Hellman to also comment on the best >>> route to advancing ITS2.0 best practice in this area, - Felix we >>> don't currently have a stub for best practice in relation to NIF on >>> the wiki, so should we start one? >> >> Mostly for Somnath et al.: As discussed in the group call today, that >> is just a question of manpower. At >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Main_Page#Draft_documents_and_time_line >> we have linked to potential "best practices documents, see >> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Best_Practice_Documents >> Sure we can add a NIF document here. We just need a volunteer to >> write it. So Somnath, if that is of interest for you, let us know. It >> might also make sense to involve Sebastian Hellmann - putting him >> here in CC. >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>> On 07/02/2013 10:06, Somnath Chandra wrote: >>>> Hello Lewis, >>>> Thanks a lot for your feedback. We have studied the NIF encoding >>>> and Indian Languages requirements for Hierarchical Annotation need >>>> to be incorporated in details in NIF. >>>> >>>> As defined in NIF Version >>>> (http://nlp2rdf.org/nif-1-0#toc-part-of-speech-tags ) , Part of >>>> speech tags should make use of Ontologies of Linguistic Annotations >>>> (OLiA) . OLiA connects local annotation tag sets with a global >>>> reference ontology. Therefore it allows to keep the specific part >>>> of speech tag at a fine granularity, while at the same time having >>>> a coarse grained reference model. >>>> >>>> OLiA defines OLiA Annotation Models for morphology, morphosyntax >>>> and syntax for multilingual. >>>> >>>> However there are three Multilingual Annotation Models for >>>> morphological, morphosyntactic and syntactic annotation for Indian >>>> langauges i.e L-POSTS tagset Baskaran et al. (2008) , >>>> AnnCorra,Bharati et al. (2006), IIIT tagset,IIT (2007). >>>> >>>> We are in process of defining a common POS tagset for Indic >>>> languages , based on W3C Internationalization best practices. The >>>> draft standard has been developed and is under process of testing >>>> and evaluation. Once finalized, the above three POS tagsets would >>>> be replaced by this national standard , which may be incorporated >>>> in NIF. >>>> >>>> We would definitely actively participate in developing the >>>> best practices for use of ITS with external NIF models with the W3C >>>> team. >>>> >>>> With regards, >>>> >>>> Dr. Somnath Chandra >>>> Scientist-E & Dy. Country Manager W3C India >>>> Dept. of Electronics & Information Technology >>>> Ministry of Communications & Information Technology >>>> Govt. of India >>>> Tel:+91-11-24364744,24301856 >>>> Fax: +91-11-24363099 >>>> e-mail :schandra@mit.gov.in >>>> >>>> On 02/04/13, *Dave Lewis *<dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie> >>>> <mailto:dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Somnath, >>>>> I wanted to follow up on this comment also. Do you have any >>>>> comments on our response, was it satisfactory? If we hear from you >>>>> to the contrary we will assume you are satisfied and aim to close >>>>> ISSUE-109 on the 11th February. >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> On 28/01/2013 00:46, Dave Lewis wrote: >>>>>> Hi Somnath, >>>>>> I wanted to update you of the status of ISSUE-109, related to >>>>>> disambiguation. >>>>>> >>>>>> We discussed this at the WG face to face meeting last week, see: >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item37. >>>>>> >>>>>> The consensus was that hierarchical annotation for disambiguation >>>>>> was difficult to achieve technically. As you point out, ITS >>>>>> override rule mean that any hierarchical annotation has to be >>>>>> supported explicitly with special attributes. However, doing this >>>>>> in a generic way is difficult as we may also need to support >>>>>> multiple different annotations of the same text, and therefore >>>>>> map sub-annotations to specific parent ones. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may have seen that there has been extensive discussion on >>>>>> potentially merging the terminology and disambiguation data >>>>>> categories: >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item03 >>>>>> and >>>>>> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/68 >>>>>> >>>>>> At the meeting we asked the experts involved is considering >>>>>> technical solutions to this to also address your hierarchical >>>>>> annotation requirement, but this yielded no usable technical >>>>>> solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> We therefore propose to reject this suggested change. >>>>>> >>>>>> We would however point out that the external NIF encoding (see >>>>>> http://nlp2rdf.org/) would be better suited to capturing such >>>>>> hierarchical annotations. We would welcome you input therefore in >>>>>> formulating best practice for the use of ITS with external NIF >>>>>> models. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let us know if you are satisfied with this response. >>>>>> >>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Dave Lewis >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21/01/2013 15:02, Dave Lewis wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> To speed the resolution of the different issues in your original >>>>>>> post I'll restricted ISSUE-84 to comments about the translate >>>>>>> data category and raised two new issues: >>>>>>> ISSUE-108: locNote ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] >>>>>>> languages >>>>>>> ISSUE-109: disambiguation ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian >>>>>>> [Indic] languages >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/01/2013 12:46, Dr. David Filip wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all, this comment is now associated with Issue-84 >>>>>>>> Rgds >>>>>>>> dF >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr. David Filip >>>>>>>> ======================= >>>>>>>> LRC | CNGL | LT-Web | CSIS >>>>>>>> University of Limerick, Ireland >>>>>>>> telephone: +353-6120-2781 >>>>>>>> *cellphone: +353-86-0222-158* >>>>>>>> facsimile: +353-6120-2734 >>>>>>>> mailto: david.filip@ul.ie <mailto:david.filip@ul.ie> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarded on behalf of Somnath Chandra (by permission), >>>>>>>> with CC to Somnath and Svaran Lata.The comments are not yet >>>>>>>> in tracker. See also new comments (also not in tracker yet) >>>>>>>> on the www-international list at >>>>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013JanMar/0065.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have input for replying to the comments, please >>>>>>>> provide it on our comments list (but feel free to put >>>>>>>> others in CC to speed up the process). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Felix >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >>>>>>>> Betreff: Fwd: ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian languages >>>>>>>> Datum: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:46:52 +0530 >>>>>>>> Von: Somnath Chandra <schandra@deity.gov.in> >>>>>>>> <mailto:schandra@deity.gov.in> >>>>>>>> An: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org> >>>>>>>> Kopie (CC): slata <slata@mit.gov.in> >>>>>>>> <mailto:slata@mit.gov.in> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Dr. Felix Sasaki, >>>>>>>> W3C India has compiled the Indic Languages requirements for >>>>>>>> ITS 2.0. Kindly find enclosed the draft document developed >>>>>>>> for the purpose. >>>>>>>> Submitted for kind perusal. Please feel free to contact me >>>>>>>> for any further clarifications / discussions. >>>>>>>> With best regards, >>>>>>>> Somnath , W3C India >>>>>>>> Dr. Somnath Chandra >>>>>>>> Joint Director and Dy. Country Manager , W3C India >>>>>>>> Dept. of Electronics & Information Technology >>>>>>>> Ministry of Communications & Information Technology >>>>>>>> Govt. of India >>>>>>>> Tel:+91-11-24364744,24301811 <tel:+91-11-24364744,24301811> >>>>>>>> Fax: +91-11-24363099 <tel:%2B91-11-24363099> >>>>>>>> e-mail :schandra@mit.gov.in <mailto:schandra@mit.gov.in> >>>>>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>>>>> From: *Prashant Verma *<vermaprashant1@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> <mailto:vermaprashant1@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Date: Jan 10, 2013 2:20:32 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian languages >>>>>>>> To: schandra@mit.gov.in <mailto:schandra@mit.gov.in> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Prashant Verma I Sr. Software Engineer >>>>>>>> W3C India >>>>>>>> New Delhi >>>>>>>> Cell : +91-8800521042 <tel:%2B91-8800521042> >>>>>>>> Website : http://www.w3cindia.in <http://www.w3cindia.in/> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>> >> > -- > Dr. Somnath Chandra > Scientist-E > Dept. of Electronics & Information Technology > Ministry of Communications & Information Technology > Govt. of India > Tel:+91-11-24364744,24301856 > Fax: +91-11-24363099 > e-mail :schandra@mit.gov.in
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