- From: jake abma <jake.abma@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:12:54 +0100
- To: Sukriti Chadha <sukriti1408@gmail.com>
- Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "Mobile a11y tf (public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org)" <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>, AGWG Chairs <group-ag-chairs@w3.org>
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Small addition, even with this adjustment you'll en up with a 18px target, imagine the right one is 24, the left 12 with 6px spacing will pass Op do 29 okt. 2020 21:37 schreef Sukriti Chadha <sukriti1408@gmail.com>: > Hi Alastair, Rachael, Chuck and MATF members, > > In today's MATF meeting, we went over the latest proposed wording in this > document > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_EHFVE-p4jEtKFa2jMEUruSvu6iv-Vt7UxRW9SrHTCQ/edit>. > Jake brought up a great point with an example. It had two adjacent targets > of 12 px width with a 6 px spacing that would pass this criteria even > though each would have only 18 px in total instead of the 24 we are aiming > for (a drawing is included in the doc). It would run into similar problems > as the one before where smaller target sizes might be encouraged due to > shared spacing. To avoid that we added "non-overlapping" to the distance. > > Please let me know if I can help clarify. Thank you everyone for your > patience with this! > > Best, > Sukriti > > PS We also looked into going with a 24X24 version of 2.5.5 (the AAA > version) but considered elements such as side rail links that aren't part > of sentences but standalone links which would fail the criteria on a large > number of websites even though those are the only targets in a 24X24 area. > > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:24 AM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> > wrote: > >> Sorry, I should have CCed the task force as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Alastair Campbell >> *Sent:* 22 October 2020 15:53 >> *To:* WCAG list >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> We discussed pointer-target-spacing yesterday, and whilst there was a >> general wish to carry on with it, we needed a new version to account for >> some of the comments. >> >> >> >> I’ve gathered a couple of suggestions together to form this version: >> >> >> >> For each target, the horizontal and vertical distance between the center >> of the target and the closest edge of the nearest target is at least 12 CSS >> pixels except when: >> >> - *Inline*: The target is in a sentence or block of text; >> - *User Agent Control:* The size of the target is determined by the >> user agent and is not modified by the author; >> - *Essential*: A particular presentation of the target is essential >> to the information being conveyed. >> >> >> >> *Note*: The User Agent Control exception would not apply as soon as >> styling properties such as font size - and in the case of mobile/tablet >> browsers, viewport meta - has been modified by the author >> >> >> >> (Google doc version >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_EHFVE-p4jEtKFa2jMEUruSvu6iv-Vt7UxRW9SrHTCQ/edit?usp=sharing> >> ) >> >> >> >> Don’t panic about the “12px” bit, that is the same as 24px wide/tall but >> if you measure from the center then you half it. It was a suggestion from >> Jeff Witt in #1444 <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1444> that should >> prevent the shared space aspect. >> >> >> >> CCing Wilco to make sure the testing perspective is considered for this >> approach. >> >> >> >> There are other comments to deal with, but does this seem like a good >> basis to continue? >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> -Alastair >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> @alastc / www.nomensa.com >> >> >> >
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