- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@raisingthefloor.org>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:27:14 -0400
- To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Cc: "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, "public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <4C81FAB4-8C31-4CC4-96FF-A179F2EBB779@raisingthefloor.org>
Grin that would require that all content have an on-screen keyboard. the only way for an author to ensure that everything I operable with only a pointer — would be for them to include and on-screen keyboard on every page that has text input — unless we are going to declare that there is no platform anywhere that does not include an on-screen keyboard. Might be true - don’t know. But remember what you are asking of an AUTHOR when you require something be there that not all platforms may have. Maybe a page that runs on a browser with voice for input? and no on screen keyboard? If there is one — then an AUTHOR needs to detect it and make all pages have an on screen keyboard as part of the page. that kind of thing. tricky bit gregg > On Jul 4, 2016, at 12:08 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Perhaps its as easy as proposing a new Success Criteria... How about this? > > All functionality <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#functiondef> of the content is operable with a pointer. > > With our definition of pointer including mouse, touch, pen, as per the mobile calls. > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > CanAdapt Solutions Inc. > Tel: 613.235.4902 > LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > twitter.com/davidmacd <http://twitter.com/davidmacd> > GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > > Adapting the web to all users > Including those with disabilities > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>> wrote: > On 04/07/2016 12:55, David MacDonald wrote: > http://www.davidmacd.com/blog/should-WCAG-require-all-functionality-by-mouse.html <http://www.davidmacd.com/blog/should-WCAG-require-all-functionality-by-mouse.html> > > Coincidentally, I've said as much in the past. > > https://twitter.com/patrick_h_lauke/status/602418310903365632 <https://twitter.com/patrick_h_lauke/status/602418310903365632> > > WCAG assumes that things will work with a mouse (because of course that's how developers build it), so that is tacitly taken as the status quo which needs to be expanded to then also cover keyboard. > > So fundamentally yes, I believe an explicit SC that requires functionality/content to be accessible to users with a mouse/other types of pointer is needed. This also dovetails with how we expanded our proposed touch/activation target SC to cover not just touch targets, but general pointer targets too. > > Exceptions would include controlled environments where there is no mouse/pointer, e.g. a point-of-sales or ATM that only has a (physical or on-screen) keyboard. > > (Incidentally, this really makes me wish the TFs were set up more along the lines of "Input TF", since that's what this really falls under - so the "mobile" moniker for this TF is a bit loose). > > P > -- > Patrick H. Lauke > > www.splintered.co.uk <http://www.splintered.co.uk/> | https://github.com/patrickhlauke <https://github.com/patrickhlauke> > http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ <http://flickr.com/photos/redux/> | http://redux.deviantart.com <http://redux.deviantart.com/> > twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke > > >
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