- From: Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
- Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:51:11 +0100
- To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Dear all,
For the record, the minutes of today's phone telecon is ready for review
at http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text
format below).
Raphaël
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
21 Dec 2011
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0027.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-irc
Attendees
Present
Raphael, Davy, Erik, Chris, Silvia
Regrets
Thomas
Chair
Erik, Raphael
Scribe
Raphael
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1. ADMIN
2. [6]2. SPEC
3. [7]3. TEST CASES AND IMPLEMENTATIONS
4. [8]4. UPDATE ACTION LIST
5. [9]5. AOB
* [10]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Date: 21 December 2011
1. ADMIN
Erik: only 3 of us, but let's close some actions
<doublec> I'm here on IRC
<scribe> Scribe: Raphael
<scribe> Scribenick: raphael
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last telecon:
[11]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html
[11] http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html
<dvdeurse> +1
Erik: we are not that many
+1
<erik> +1
<doublec> +1
Erik: no objection, minutes approved
2. SPEC
ACTION-249?
<trackbot> ACTION-249 -- Raphaël Troncy to tidy up the spec before
December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/249
[12] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/249
Raphael: I will have tidy up the document before next week telecon
Erik: 2 new email threads
... 1/ rounding spatial fragments
<dvdeurse>
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
c/0015.html
[13]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0015.html
Raphael: is there some concrete text proposal to replace?
<dvdeurse> we could add it here:
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spe
c/#valid-uri-spatial
[14]
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#valid-uri-spatial
Raphael: section 6.1.2 seems indeed the right place to clarify how
rounding should occur
... we need a concrete text suggestion to put here
Erik: should we ask Silvia / Philip ?
<silvia> what rounding?
<silvia> ah I guess these values have to be integers:
a/w*100,b/h*100,c/w*100,d/h*100
Silvia, we are talking about the thread of Philip,
[15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
c/0015.html
[15]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0015.html
<silvia> foolip suggested rounding outwards, and I agree
<silvia> raphael, I was talking about that, too, and in the place
that dvdeurse suggested, which I agree with
<silvia> so it should be: floor(a/w*100), floor(b/h*100),
ceil(c/w*100), ceil(d/h*100)
Erik: I will email Philip to ask him for a concrete text proposal to
go into section 6.1.2
Raphael: yes Silvia, but we need some text to explain the issue to
the reader, we cannot put just this sentence
<silvia> no, we can just replace what's there with these values
Erik: other issue, BNF-syntax on wall-clock, see
[16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
c/0000.html
[16]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0000.html
<silvia> xywh=percent:a,b,c,d with a+c <= 100, b+d <= 100: the UA
displays a spatial fragment with coordinates (in pixel xywh format)
a/w*100,b/h*100,c/w*100,d/h*100 (the normal percent case).
<silvia> ^ it's in this text line
ok, thanks Silvia !
<erik> agree with Silvia :)
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to change in section 6.1.2 the last valid
spatial fragment with the text suggested by Silvia/Philip [recorded
in [17]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Change in section 6.1.2 the last
valid spatial fragment with the text suggested by Silvia/Philip [on
Raphaël Troncy - due 2011-12-28].
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to update the section 4.2.1.3 (Wall Clock
time code) with the concrete proposal from Christoph at
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
c/0000.html [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
[18]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0000.html
<trackbot> Created ACTION-253 - Update the section 4.2.1.3 (Wall
Clock time code) with the concrete proposal from Christoph at
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
c/0000.html [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2011-12-28].
[20]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0000.html
3. TEST CASES AND IMPLEMENTATIONS
ACTION-250?
<trackbot> ACTION-250 -- Davy Van Deursen to tidy up the
implementation report before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/250
[21] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/250
<scribe> Done ... section headings have been changed
close ACTION-250
<trackbot> ACTION-250 Tidy up the implementation report before
December 24th closed
Raphael: should we put in this document that we have also "producer"
of media fragments?
Erik: should we point to mediafragments.org or the wiki page?
Raphael: add a sentence or a ref somewhere?
Davy: ok I will do that
ACTION-245?
<trackbot> ACTION-245 -- Raphaël Troncy to clarify whether
Dailymotion will provide an implementation or not -- due 2011-12-07
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/245
[22] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/245
<scribe> ACTION: davy to complete the implementation report
mentioning the other type of implementations [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-254 - Complete the implementation report
mentioning the other type of implementations [on Davy Van Deursen -
due 2011-12-28].
close ACTION-245
<trackbot> ACTION-245 Clarify whether Dailymotion will provide an
implementation or not closed
Raphael: we will not get an implementation report on time regarding
Dailymotion implementation
... but we will follow up this important implementation for the
showcase portal
<silvia> why does Dailymotion's implementation count?
<silvia> they are not even using the same syntax
Raphael: it does not Silvia
<silvia> ok, cool
Raphael: I think you haven't followed the thread ...
<silvia> because otherwise YouTube might have counted, too
Raphael: they will change the syntax to be compliant
<silvia> just saying that right now they are not
Raphael: if YouTube changes its syntax, and passes the test cases,
they will count :-)
... this is what we are saying
... announcement, Noterik in NL is also implementing Media Fragments
URI ... a first product available in Feb 2012
ACTION-251?
<trackbot> ACTION-251 -- Erik Mannens to contact the Europeana
developers to check the feasibility of having a new implementation
report -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/251
[24] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/251
close ACTION-251
<trackbot> ACTION-251 Contact the Europeana developers to check the
feasibility of having a new implementation report closed
See
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
c/0026.html
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0026.html
4. UPDATE ACTION LIST
ACTION-240?
<trackbot> ACTION-240 -- Raphaël Troncy to create a first draft of
this page on the wiki before designing the web site -- due
2011-10-12 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/240
[26] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/240
close ACTION-240
<trackbot> ACTION-240 Create a first draft of this page on the wiki
before designing the web site closed
See [27]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Showcase
[27] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Showcase
Raphael: we should really edit this page and complete it as soon as
we come across a new implementation
<erik> +1
@Silvia, if you hear about something, could you please edit this
page too?
5. AOB
none
meeting adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: davy to complete the implementation report mentioning
the other type of implementations [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to change in section 6.1.2 the last valid
spatial fragment with the text suggested by Silvia/Philip [recorded
in [29]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to update the section 4.2.1.3 (Wall Clock time
code) with the concrete proposal from Christoph at
[30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011De
c/0000.html [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
[30]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0000.html
[End of minutes]
_________________________________________________________
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Raphaël Troncy
EURECOM, Multimedia Communications Department
2229, route des Crêtes, 06560 Sophia Antipolis, France.
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