Re: XSLT-Stylesheet for conversion XMP > MAWG

Thierry, Martin, all,

I implemented Martin's comments:
- input file with only one creation date value
http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_test_canonical.xml
- XSLT transformation that solves the issues with multiple labels for
ma:hasLanguage and ma:hasPolicy
http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xml-canonical-to-mawg.xsl
- output in RDF/XML
http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_test_canonical_mapped-to-rdf-by-xslt.xml
- output in TTL
http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_test_canonical_mapped-to-rdf-by-xslt.ttl

Regards,

Felix

2011/9/12 Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@dfki.de>

> Sorry, Thierry, I don't remember the discussion with Werner  in detail.
> There is no label and no bag in
>
> > ma:date "2009"^^xsd:gYear,
> > "2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
> > "2010-12"^^xsd:gYearMonth,
> > "2010-12-13T12:59:59.12345+02:00"^^xsd:string,
> > "2010-12-23T14:42:31"^^xsd:dateTime,
> > "2010-12-31"^^xsd:date,
> > "2010-12-31T11:59:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
> > "2010-12-31T11:59Z"^^xsd:string;
>
> these are plain RDF statements. Could you clarify how to deal with the
> above?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Felix
>
>
> 2011/9/12 Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
>
>> Felix,
>>
>>
>> It is the same issue for all;
>> This was already discussed with Werner.
>> you should use  multiple time the same labels or avoid bags in your
>> example.
>>
>>
>> Thierry
>> > Dear Martin, all,
>> >
>> > in addition to your observations and suggestions - which all make sense
>> -,
>> > let me mention that there are other cases of multiple examples of the
>> same
>> > kind of information:
>> > * ma:date:
>> > ma:date "2009"^^xsd:gYear,
>> > "2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
>> > "2010-12"^^xsd:gYearMonth,
>> > "2010-12-13T12:59:59.12345+02:00"^^xsd:string,
>> > "2010-12-23T14:42:31"^^xsd:dateTime,
>> > "2010-12-31"^^xsd:date,
>> > "2010-12-31T11:59:00"^^xsd:dateTime,
>> > "2010-12-31T11:59Z"^^xsd:string;
>> > * ma:title:
>> > ma:title "dc:title (de-DE)"^^xsd:string,
>> > "dc:title (en-US)"^^xsd:string,
>> > "dc:title (x-default)"^^xsd:string,
>> > "xmpDM:album"^^xsd:string.
>> > In XMP it is clear where the information is coming from, e.g. from
>> dublin
>> > core within XM Por the xmpDM namespace. The mawg values of course don't
>> > express provenance. So an application does not know whether it should
>> > choose
>> > e.g.  2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00 or 2009 is the date value.
>> >
>> > I don't know how to solve this problem but just wanted you to be aware
>> of
>> > it. Martin, all, please let me know how you want to proceed, for
>> > ma:hasLanguage, ma:hasPolicy, ma:date, ma:creationDate and ma:title.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Felix
>> >
>> > 2011/9/12 Höffernig, Martin <Martin.Hoeffernig@joanneum.at>
>> >
>> >> Dear Felix, Thierry, all
>> >>
>> >> I have finished the recheck of the latest XMP example.
>> >> This example has passed the consistency check using Protege and Pellet.
>> >>
>> >> However, I have some remarks which should be discussed.
>> >>
>> >> The value of ma:hasLanguage is a rescource containing three different
>> >> labels:
>> >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>> >>         <rdfs:label>en</rdfs:label>
>> >>         <rdfs:label>de-DE</rdfs:label>
>> >>         <rdfs:label>de-DE-bayrisch</rdfs:label>
>> >> </ma:hasLanguage>
>> >>
>> >> Since no cardinality restrictions has been defined in the MA ontology,
>> >> using multiple labels for the same resoure would be possible.
>> >> However, the question is if the above usage of mulitpe labels is
>> correct
>> >> in
>> >> the MA ontology context?
>> >>
>> >> I would suggest to avoid the mulitple labels for the same resource and
>> >> describe multiple labels in the following way:
>> >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>> >>         <rdfs:label>en</rdfs:label>
>> >> </ma:hasLanguage>
>> >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>> >>         <rdfs:label>de-DE</rdfs:label>
>> >> </ma:hasLanguage>
>> >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource">
>> >>         <rdfs:label>de-DE-bayrisch</rdfs:label>
>> >> </ma:hasLanguage>
>> >>
>> >> Another resource (value of ma:hasPolicy) contains multiple labels
>> >> modelled
>> >> in the same as above.
>> >>
>> >> Furthermore, the media resource contains two different creation dates.
>> >> From my side of view there can be only one creation date.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> > Von: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
>> >> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 08. September 2011 20:03
>> >> > An: Felix Sasaki; Höffernig, Martin
>> >> > Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; Frank Biederich
>> >> > Betreff: Re: XSLT-Stylesheet for conversion XMP > MAWG
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Felix, Martin,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I have added your 2 files (XML and RDF) into the testsuite.
>> >> > (replace the former one.
>> >> > Note that in the RDF I have added a comment as mentuionned in the
>> >> > guidelines.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have also added your Stylesheet for conversion of XMP (canonical
>> >> > form)
>> >> > to instance of "Ontology for Media Resources 1.0" in the list of
>> >> > Implementations/demonstrators
>> >> >
>> >> > see
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite
>> >> > .html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The last bit is that I have removed the former TTL file for XMP.
>> Maybe
>> >> > you would like to provide a new one?
>> >> >
>> >> > Martin could you check the RDF file for XMP ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks a lot for your input.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bets,
>> >> >
>> >> > thierry
>> >> >
>> >> > Le 08/09/2011 12:25, Felix Sasaki a écrit :
>> >> > > Thierry, all,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I have made a slight update of the XMP examples. Attached ZIP file
>> >> > contains
>> >> > > a new input file MAWG_test_canonical.xml, and an output
>> >> > > file MAWG_test_canonical_mapped-to-rdf-by-xslt.xmp
>> >> > > can you replace input and output in the CR table for the ontology
>> >> > document
>> >> > > accordingly?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The ZIP file also contains an XSLT stylesheet that I used for the
>> >> > generation
>> >> > > of the output file. Input needs to be XMP *in canonical form* (a
>> >> > certain
>> >> > > kind of XMP serialization). From my understanding an XMP processor
>> >> > needs to
>> >> > > be capable to produce that form. See the stylesheet also at
>> >> > >
>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xml-canonical-to-
>> >> > mawg.xsl
>> >> > > Can you add the stylesheet (or maybe rather the link to it) to the
>> >> > mapping
>> >> > > tool list of implementations / demonstrators for the ontology? Many
>> >> > thanks
>> >> > > in advance.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >   I have put Frank Biederich from Adobe into the loop so that he is
>> >> > aware of
>> >> > > this.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Regards,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Felix
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Prof. Dr. Felix Sasaki
>> > Senior Researcher, Language Technology Lab
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> Prof. Dr. Felix Sasaki
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DFKI GmbH, Alt-Moabit 91c, 10559 Berlin, Germany http://www.dfki.de
phone: +49-30-23895-1807 (fax: -1810)
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