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From: Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:13:29 +0200
To: "mcsuarez@fi.upm.es" <mcsuarez@fi.upm.es>, "tobias@tobiasbuerger.com" <tobias@tobiasbuerger.com>
CC: "Bailer, Werner" <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7D1656F54141C042A1B2556AE5237D60010F5A1BC44A@GVAMAIL.gva.ebu.ch>
I believe that if MAWG concentrates on the mediaresource itself most of the BBC related aspects are covered.

Brand and series are covered by the collection. Series is already a sub-class and we could add brand.

Epsidoe is covered by isEpisodeOf.

Scheduled event under a particular channel of a particular service is covered by the locator and more information can be provided also using the relation properties e.g. is related to service.

The broadcaster is adressed as an organisation and the hasProvider property. We could have a subproperty isBroadcastBy.

If MAWG woudl like to define what a schedule is, there is the BBC ontology but also TV-Ayntime (used by YouView in the UK, supported by BBC too, and officially maintained by me for ETSI) to be taken into account with a lot of unrivalled know-how. But does MAWG wnat to do this?

I have been discussing this with Kavi from Google yesterday and I am working on it. Happy to work on this with MAWG for phase 2 of MAWG if relevant to this group.

Regards, Jean-Pierre

De : public-media-annotation-request@w3.org [public-media-annotation-request@w3.org] de la part de Mari Carmen Suárez de Figueroa Baonza [mcsuarez@fi.upm.es]
Date d'envoi : jeudi, 9. juin 2011 19:34
À : tobias@tobiasbuerger.com
Cc : Bailer, Werner; public-media-annotation@w3.org
Objet : Re: Minutes of MAWG Telecon

Dear Tobias,

El 08/06/2011 8:29, Tobias Bürger escribió:
(2) With respect to the comments from Mari-Carmen about ontologies currently used in the Linked Data area:
What additional vocabularies do you have in mind that not already are on our radar? The things I know out there use vocabularies that either we provided mappings for or that provided mappings to our ontology themselves (in case of M3O) or that use our ontology (in case of the EventMedia stuff). The only bigger effort in the Linked Data and multimedia area I am aware of that uses an ontology which is not in our scope is the work from BBC. They use the music ontology and other related vocabularies which we did not put into our scope because of their sole focus on audio.
I had in mind the work from BBC; not only the Music Ontology Specification but also the Programmes Ontology (http://www.bbc.co.uk/ontologies/programmes/2009-09-07.shtml) that at some point is related to multimedia resources in a particular case. I did not know you already discussed about this issue.
I had also in mind other vocabularies in the Linked Data area, such as those available here "http://labs.mondeca.com/dataset/lov/details/vocabularySpace_Theatre.html"<http://labs.mondeca.com/dataset/lov/details/vocabularySpace_Theatre.html>.
Maybe they are a little transverse to the Media Ontology, but I think it could be useful to provide how to align them.

(3) With respect to the formation of a dedicated group on Linked Data + Multimedai:
We discussed this already in the past. WE could not find many reasons which would demand a dedicated group on this topic as (a) the combination of Linked Data and multimedia is "just" an application case for multimedia; I admit a slightly more complex and maybe more interesting, but many key issues can be drilled down to issues with Linked Data (publishing, interlinking, consumption) themselves (b) Other issues were addressed by the fragments working group (c) Dedicated vocabulaires are in my point of view independent of their use with Linked Data

Maybe you have specific topics in mind that would demand a group which I do not see?
I see your points.
With respect to my comment during the telecon, I was just thinking on how the Media Ontology could be reused/extended in linked data applications as well as how to create (semi)automatically multimedia datasets according to the Media Ontology (plus others if necessary).
In addition, I think about to extend the Media Ontology with more knowledge in order to obtain an ontology for representing also the content of a media resource. This could be very useful for applications that search for resources that contains particular issues.

For my view on this topic and the issues I see you might want to have a look at the following publications:
Thank you very much for these pointers. They look very interesting :-D.

Best Regards,

        Mari Carmen.

Tobias Bürger and Michael Hausenblas "Interlinking Multimedia - Principles and Requirements" In: Proceedings of the First International Workshop on Interacting with Multimedia Content on the Social Semantic Web, co-located with SAMT 2008, Dec, 3.-5., 2008

Michael Hausenblas, Raphael Troncy, Tobias Bürger, and Yves Raimond "Interlinking Multimedia: How to Apply Linked Data Principles to Multimedia Fragments" In: Proceedings of Linked Data on the Web (LDOW2009), co-located with the 18th International World Wide Web Conference (WWW2009), Madrid, Spain, 2009

Bernhard Schandl, Bernhard Haslhofer, Tobias Bürger, Andreas Langegger, and Wolfgang Halb "Linked Data and Multimedia: The State of Affairs" accepted for publication in Multimedia Tools and Applications journal, Special issue 'Semantic Multimedia', Springer, 2010

Jean-Pierre Evain and Tobias Bürger "Semantic Web, Linked Data, and Broadcasting - more in common than you'd think!" EBU Technical Review - 2011 Q1, 2011.

Thomas Kurz, Sebastian Schaffert and Tobias Bürger "LMF - A Framework for Linked Media", accepted at MMWeb2011 (forthcoming).

Looking forward to discuss more on these issues!

Best regards,


2011/6/7 Bailer, Werner <werner.bailer@joanneum.at<mailto:werner.bailer@joanneum.at>>
Dear all,

The minutes of today's telecon are at http://www.w3.org/2011/06/07-mediaann-minutes.html

Best regards,

 Werner Bailer
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