- From: Veronique Malaise <vmalaise@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:20:54 +0200
- To: "Bailer, Werner" <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>
- Cc: Daniel Park <soohongp@gmail.com>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Hello! Agreed to all of your comments! Véro On Jun 5, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Bailer, Werner wrote: > Dear Véronique, all, > > Thanks a lot for the proposed changes. I agree to most of them, find > my comments to the others below: > >> ------ >> Further it defines semantics-preserving mappings between >> elements from existing formats. >> -> what does "semantics-preserving" mean? > > I suggest to drop it, actually the mapping table tells how much > semantics is preserved or lost. > >> -> we do not define mappings between formats, it is mappings >> between the formats and a common set, not between them (cf >> the directed vs non-directed mapping discussion). >> -> Further, a mapping between a set of popular existing >> formats for describing multimedia (on the Web?) and this >> ontology has been defined. > > I would not write "on the Web", actually some of the formats are not > really Web-related. > >> ------ >> Nevertheless it is being published with the aspiration to >> gather wide feedback on the general direction of the Working >> Group. In particular we would like to encourage feedback on >> section 4 Property definition. >> -> section 4 should be renamed, we do not define the >> properties, we simply list the properties taken into account >> in the core part of the ontology. > > I'm not sure about renaming. First, we give a brief definition of > the properties (that sentence is also called definition in the > Dublin Core Spec). Second, if we are going to define data types in > future version it is even more justified to call it definition. > >> ------ >> 2.2 Identifiers of formats >> Why not merge this section with the "formats in scope" which >> is a long list without information and is redundant with this >> table, much nicer than a flat list. > > I agree to merging. Looking at the table, I'm not sure if the > arbitrary examples for each of the formats provide any useful > information here. > >> ------ >> 3 Property value type definitions >> 3.1 Basic property value types >> ->3 Property value type definitions >> Property value types are the types of values that properties >> can have. These can be: >> [remove: 3.1 Basic property value types, as there are no >> complex values defined so far] >> -> this section can also go under the format in scope section >> gathering the previous table. > > I think once we start defining the types of our properties, the > basic property value types could become a subsection of 4. > >> ------ >> Last comment: >> -> by the way, we never define ontology, and never state that >> we consider a light weight description of properties and >> their informal mappings as an ontology. We can also add that >> some more canonical forms of ontologies, with restrictions >> and a formal semantics might be derived from this informal >> list at a further stage. > > We had this discussion about different layers of conformance (more > formal and more informal ones) some time ago. I think it could be > mentioned on the introduction of this document that we have now the > set of properties, for which a more formal definition might be > provided in future version. (Simply adding data types is a step into > this direction.) > > Best regards, > Werner > > > >> On Jun 1, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Park wrote: >> >> >> This is a draft agenda for this week call tomorrow. >> Feel free to let chairs know if any items are omitted... >> >> >> >> >> >> *===================================================================* >> >> *Tuesday, 2 June 12:00-13:00 UTC* >> >> >> *===================================================================* >> >> * **Zakim General Information* >> >> >> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=06& > day=02&year=2009&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=06 >> &day=02&year=2009&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=0> >> >> >> http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar.html#s >> _3261 <http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar.html> >> >> Bridge US: +1-617-761-6200 (Zakim) >> >> Bridge FR: +33.4.89.06.34.99 >> >> Bridge UK: +44.117.370.6152 >> >> Conference code: 6294 (spells "MAWG") >> >> Duration: 60 minutes >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> IRC channel : #mediaann on irc.w3.org:6665 >> <http://irc.w3.org:6665/> W3C IRC Web Client : >> http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc >> <http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc> (Other clients are >> listed at http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/#Client >> <http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/> ) >> >> Zakim information : >> http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim >> <http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim> >> >> Zakim bridge monitor : >> http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html >> <http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html> >> >> Zakim IRC bot : >> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html >> <http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WG home page : >> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/ >> <http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/> >> >> WG admin home page : >> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/admin >> <http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/admin> >> >> WG AI tracker : >> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/ >> <http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/> >> >> WG open issue : >> >> >> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open >> <http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open> >> >> >> *===================================================================* >> >> *AGENDA* >> >> *[1] Administratives* >> >> Chair: Daniel >> >> Scribe: Werner >> >> Regrets: >> >> [a] Agenda review and approval of previous minutes 26 May 2009 >> >> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/26-mediaann-minutes.html >> >> [b] Schedule for the next call on 9 June 2009 >> >> >> >> >> *[2] Items* >> >> [a] Action items >> >> Please give us the status of your Action Item. We will >> go through the list >> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open >> <http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open> >> >> [b] Initial draft of "Ontology for Media Entity 1.0" >> >> i) Status (Wonsuk, Veronique) >> >> ii) Attribute descriptors (David) >> >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/20 > 09May/0099.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-> media- > annotation/2009May/0099.html> >> >> iii) Syntactic descriptions comment from Felix >> >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/20 > 09May/0096.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-> media- > annotation/2009May/0096.html> >> >> >> >> >> [c] Browsable version (Ruben), can it be done automatically? >> >> >> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/MediaOntology >> <http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/MediaOntology> >> >> [d] Schedule for API and Ontology for Media Resource >> 1.0 First Draft. >> >> Set up a time plan in order to move it to a draft >> >> [e] AOB >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Soohong Daniel Park >> Standard Architect, http://blog.naver.com/natpt >> DMC Business, Samsung Electronics, KOREA >> >> >> >> >> >>
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