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R: Questions regarding the AUI diagram

From: Fabio Patern˛ <fabio.paterno@isti.cnr.it>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:33:22 +0200
To: public-mbui@w3.org
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I agree that the introduction document should give an indication of the
relevant models and their relationships.

By the way, I'm not able to attend the tomorrow audioconference because I'm



-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Sebastian Feuerstack [mailto:Sebastian@Feuerstack.org] 
Inviato: mercoledý 24 ottobre 2012 13:17
A: public-mbui@w3.org
Oggetto: Re: Questions regarding the AUI diagram

Dear Heiko,

yes, it would be great to offer some kind of a big picture to ease people
understanding how the models fit together. I think this should be part of
the introduction document.

The idea of my submission [1] was indeed to depict the relations between the
models. Even if all models can be seen independently (GR1:Completeness) in
practice it would be hard to design an AUI without even thinking about the
actual domain (model).

I absolutely agree with Jean, that the domain model is separate and
independent - often it already exists (at least partially) even before an
interface is designed. Thus, my proposal was to factor out of  the "id"
attribute of the
AUI model to an "entity" that every other model element from every model is
related to (e.g. by inheritance or association)  and that is used to define
mappings (and/or transformations) between elements of models.

In my opinion, documentation, the domain model, the localization, and even
the behaviour are not part of the AUI model (because these concepts are
relevant for other models as well) but could be connected in an elegant way
by using mappings.

Pls. note that [1] was a submission of my personal understanding of the AUI
to illustrate my idea and is neither complete nor a shared view between the
group participants.

[1] https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5wKTP0MHyexT0JsTHpOdHpJMzA


On 10/24/2012 08:04 AM, Heiko Braun wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification Jean. 
> I think it will help if we do properly outline the relation to models that
are needed to see the "big picture", but that don't belong to the AUI layer
itself. Looking at the current AUI diagram, it seems that the domain model
is a part of it. 
> Are there any other related models that have been suppressed (i.e "mapping
> IMO it would really helpful  describe all models from a high level view,
which layer they belong to and how they enrich the AUI model itself. Looking
at it with my "novice" hat on, seems to be the most confusing part when
getting started with the MBUI specification drafts. 
> Regards, Heiko

Sebastian Feuerstack
Department of Computer Science
Federal University of Sao Carlos - Brazil http://www.feuerstack.org 

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