[MathOnWeb] a11y task force minutes 2018-09-24

Hi everyone,

Here are the minutes from the meeting of the accessibility task force this
week.

Best,
Peter.

# MathOnWeb Accessibility Task Force meeting, 2018-09-24

* Present: Volker, Charles, Peter, Neil, Krista
  * Regrets: Joanie, Kevin, Dani
* Peter: TPAC
  * last time we listed labeling and navigation and had a discussion about
the place of tooling
  * how do we get there?
* Charles: there's also the CSS meeting
  * Peter: yes, mostly the TF but everyone welcome (I think)
  * Neil: is there something a11y related?
    * Peter: not as such. It's focused on layout
  * Neil: dyslexia
    * unclear research on fonts
    * other ideas though
  * Charles: there was also color, bolding etc?
    * Neil: right. lots of complications
      * can you even do this on a character level?
    * Peter: not on a dev level, but engines might
  * Neil: would be good to ask this but not sure if it's trivial?
    * ACTION: Charles to find out the state
  * Krista: what's the background on this?
    * why would you change the color?
    * Neil: helps people who have trouble identifying shapes
      * e.g. E and 3,  8 and B
      * you can use colors to identify each, and rotate colors
    * Krista: ok, makes sense for those users
      * would need user controlled removal for color blindness
      * Neil: right.
      * Charles: customization can help
* Peter: it seems to me that our disambiguation work does not lend itself
to discussion at TPAC
  * not really constructive, just tells us how complicated it is
  * what do people think?
  * Neil: we don't really have a proposal
* Volker: but we wanted to discuss navigation?
  * Peter: right. Just back tracking
  * ACTION: peter and volker to summarize the approaches used in MathJax
a11y extensions, light walker (and possibly other tools in this space)
* Peter: this connects to labeling
  * but that came from Dani
  * Maybe make it an action for him
  * ACTION Dani to write up page on labeling
* Krista: question: I'm working with instructors on making accessible
content
  * do you have guidelines for instructors for authoring?
  * and beyond web to word and PDF
  * Neil: PDF does have MathML nowadays
    * but no authoring tools
  * Peter: authoring guidelines is definitely in scope
    * print maybe not so much but technically we can do whatever people
want to tackle
* Krista: is MathML in LMS a topic?
  * Peter: it's come up before but no specific work items
  * Neil: LMS integration of WIRIS tools probably the standard
* Krista: for faculty, do you have recommendations to answer "how to
produce this accessibly"?
  * Charles: Benetech has some groups on this
  * Neil: for LMS, there's WIRIS's tools
  * Charles: there's math support finder and ebook prototype
* Krista: I recommend MathML in docx files. Is that reasonable?
  * Neil: yes. Peter will disagree
  * Peter: for non-web and not being sued, yes. For best quality, imho, no
  * Volker: there are limitations, especially on more advanced fields
    * one should never throw away sources, e.g., LaTeX