- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:05:24 -0600
- To: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Thanks Jim. On 1/16/17, Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu> wrote: > Acrobat DC (not Acrobat reader) allows changes to line, character, and > paragraph spacing, in editable PDFs. you can also change the font, font > color, and font size. > > Jim > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Avila > <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> > wrote: > >> > I tested in Safari and it respects user styles over author inline >> styles. Jon, the Stylish extension on Chrome and Firefox didn't respect >> user styles over author inline styles for me. >> >> Yes, that is the point I was attempting to make-- from what I know >> stylish >> adds in the styles as document level styles and they are not seen as >> "user >> level styles". Many browsers don't let you add user level styles and >> thus >> we are stuck with tools that only allow us to enter document level >> styles. >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:05 PM >> To: Wayne Dick; Jonathan Avila >> Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf; Shawn Henry >> Subject: Re: Spacing SC >> >> Hi Wayne, Jon and all, >> >> Thanks for your comments on the Github Issue. >> >> I put together a simple test case: >> http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/wcagwg/tests/user_ >> styles/important_spacing.html >> >> A spacing user stylesheet is also available. It uses Wayne's CSS >> declarations. (Thanks Wayne!) http://www.d.umn.edu/~ >> lcarlson/wcagwg/tests/user_styles/spacing.css >> >> Please test it and let me know your results. >> >> I tested in Safari and it respects user styles over author inline styles. >> Jon, the Stylish extension on Chrome and Firefox didn't respect user >> styles over author inline styles for me. >> >> Kindest Regards, >> Laura >> >> On 1/9/17, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi Wayne, >> > >> > Thank you for checking the verbiage. Yes, I posted a first attempt at >> > new language in a comment on the GitHub issue. It is at: >> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413 >> > >> > According to the SC Managers Phase1 Wiki page, GitHub is the main >> > platform for commenting on SCs. @mbgower proposed refining it a bit: >> > >> >> For all text presented in the content, each of the following is true: >> >> >> >> * word spacing can be adjusted by the user >> >>* line spacing can be adjusted by the user >> >>* paragraph spacing can be adjusted by the user " >> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270822241 >> > >> > Mike's language seems simpler. To me the word "adjusted" makes more >> > sense than the word "selected". >> > >> > @patrickhlauke did some user style sheet testing. His findings: >> > >> >> providing that a user stylesheet is >> >> written appropriately, !important in >> >> the author's styles and style >> >> attributes do NOT override the user >> >> styles." >> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-271170859 >> > >> > Wayne and Shawn, do either of you have an example of where !important >> > can't be overwritten by users? If so please comment in the GitHub >> > issue. >> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78 >> > >> > Thank you! >> > >> > Kindest Regards, >> > Laura >> > >> > >> > On Jan 8, 2017 10:50 AM, "Wayne Dick" <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Laura, >> >> This is exactly right. >> >> >> >> A mechanism does exist- User Style Sheets for Accommodation. >> >> >> >> Did you post this language? >> >> >> >> Wayne >> >> >> >> PS: I will attend to font family. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Laura Carlson >> >> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi again, >> >> > >> >> > I added a first attempt at rewording the SC with exemptions. >> >> > >> >> > For the visual presentation of blocks of text: >> >> > >> >> > * character spacing can be selected by the user >> >> > * word spacing can be selected by the user >> >> > * line spacing can be selected by the user >> >> > * paragraph spacing can be selected by the user >> >> > >> >> > with following the exceptions: >> >> > >> >> > * If spacing of content is essential to that contents use, that >> >> > part of the content is exempt. >> >> > * If the user agent prohibits spacing adjustments the content is >> >> > exempt. >> >> > >> >> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413 >> >> > >> >> > Ideas for improvement? >> >> > >> >> > Kindest Regards, >> >> > Laura >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 1/5/17, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hello Low Vision Task Force, >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you for the discussion on the Spacing SC at today's meeting. >> >> >> Much appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> I commented on the Github Issue to get people's thoughts on the >> >> >> mobile exception approach. >> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413 >> >> >> >> >> >> Please chime in with your perspective if you have something to add. >> >> >> Shawn, it would be terrific to have your thoughts in the GitHub >> issue. >> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78 >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> Kindest Regards, >> >> >> Laura >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Laura L. Carlson >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Laura L. Carlson >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Laura L. Carlson >> > > > > -- > Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator > Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired > 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 > voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/ > "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964 > -- Laura L. Carlson
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