Re: Spacing SC

Thanks Jim.

On 1/16/17, Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu> wrote:
> Acrobat DC (not Acrobat reader) allows changes to line, character, and
> paragraph spacing, in editable PDFs. you can also change the font, font
> color, and font size.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Avila
> <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > I tested in Safari and it respects user styles over author inline
>> styles. Jon,  the Stylish extension on Chrome and Firefox didn't respect
>> user styles over author inline styles for me.
>>
>> Yes, that is the point I was attempting to make-- from what I know
>> stylish
>> adds in the styles as document level styles and they are not seen as
>> "user
>> level styles".  Many browsers don't let you add user level styles and
>> thus
>> we are stuck with tools that only allow us to enter document level
>> styles.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:05 PM
>> To: Wayne Dick; Jonathan Avila
>> Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf; Shawn Henry
>> Subject: Re: Spacing SC
>>
>> Hi Wayne, Jon and all,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments on the Github Issue.
>>
>> I put together a simple test case:
>> http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/wcagwg/tests/user_
>> styles/important_spacing.html
>>
>> A spacing user stylesheet is also available. It uses Wayne's CSS
>> declarations. (Thanks Wayne!) http://www.d.umn.edu/~
>> lcarlson/wcagwg/tests/user_styles/spacing.css
>>
>> Please test it and let me know your results.
>>
>> I tested in Safari and it respects user styles over author inline styles.
>> Jon,  the Stylish extension on Chrome and Firefox didn't respect user
>> styles over author inline styles for me.
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Laura
>>
>> On 1/9/17, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Wayne,
>> >
>> > Thank you for checking the verbiage. Yes, I posted a first attempt at
>> > new language in a comment on the GitHub issue. It is at:
>> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413
>> >
>> > According to the SC Managers Phase1 Wiki page, GitHub is the main
>> > platform for commenting on SCs. @mbgower proposed refining it a bit:
>> >
>> >> For all text presented in the content, each of the following is true:
>> >>
>> >> * word spacing can be adjusted by the user
>> >>* line spacing can be adjusted by the user
>> >>* paragraph spacing can be adjusted by the user "
>> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270822241
>> >
>> > Mike's language seems simpler. To me the word "adjusted" makes more
>> > sense than the word "selected".
>> >
>> > @patrickhlauke did some user style sheet testing. His findings:
>> >
>> >> providing that a user stylesheet is
>> >> written appropriately, !important in
>> >> the author's styles and style
>> >> attributes do NOT override the user
>> >> styles."
>> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-271170859
>> >
>> > Wayne and Shawn, do either of you have an example of where !important
>> > can't be overwritten by users? If so please comment in the GitHub
>> > issue.
>> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> >
>> > Kindest Regards,
>> > Laura
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jan 8, 2017 10:50 AM, "Wayne Dick" <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Laura,
>> >> This is exactly right.
>> >>
>> >> A mechanism does exist- User Style Sheets for Accommodation.
>> >>
>> >> Did you post this language?
>> >>
>> >> Wayne
>> >>
>> >> PS: I will attend to font family.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Laura Carlson
>> >> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi again,
>> >> >
>> >> > I added a first attempt at rewording the SC with exemptions.
>> >> >
>> >> > For the visual presentation of blocks of text:
>> >> >
>> >> > * character spacing can be selected by the user
>> >> > * word spacing can be selected by the user
>> >> > * line spacing can be selected by the user
>> >> > * paragraph spacing can be selected by the user
>> >> >
>> >> > with following the exceptions:
>> >> >
>> >> > * If spacing of content is essential to that contents use, that
>> >> > part of the content is exempt.
>> >> > * If the user agent prohibits spacing adjustments the content is
>> >> > exempt.
>> >> >
>> >> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413
>> >> >
>> >> > Ideas for improvement?
>> >> >
>> >> > Kindest Regards,
>> >> > Laura
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1/5/17, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Hello Low Vision Task Force,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you for the discussion on the Spacing SC at today's meeting.
>> >> >> Much appreciated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I commented on the Github Issue to get people's thoughts on the
>> >> >> mobile exception approach.
>> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please chime in with your perspective if you have something to add.
>> >> >> Shawn, it would be terrific to have your thoughts in the GitHub
>> issue.
>> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kindest Regards,
>> >> >> Laura
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Laura L. Carlson
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Laura L. Carlson
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>>
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