Re: Spacing SC

Acrobat DC (not Acrobat reader) allows changes to line, character, and
paragraph spacing, in editable PDFs. you can also change the font, font
color, and font size.

Jim

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
wrote:

> > I tested in Safari and it respects user styles over author inline
> styles. Jon,  the Stylish extension on Chrome and Firefox didn't respect
> user styles over author inline styles for me.
>
> Yes, that is the point I was attempting to make-- from what I know stylish
> adds in the styles as document level styles and they are not seen as "user
> level styles".  Many browsers don't let you add user level styles and thus
> we are stuck with tools that only allow us to enter document level styles.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:05 PM
> To: Wayne Dick; Jonathan Avila
> Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf; Shawn Henry
> Subject: Re: Spacing SC
>
> Hi Wayne, Jon and all,
>
> Thanks for your comments on the Github Issue.
>
> I put together a simple test case:
> http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/wcagwg/tests/user_
> styles/important_spacing.html
>
> A spacing user stylesheet is also available. It uses Wayne's CSS
> declarations. (Thanks Wayne!) http://www.d.umn.edu/~
> lcarlson/wcagwg/tests/user_styles/spacing.css
>
> Please test it and let me know your results.
>
> I tested in Safari and it respects user styles over author inline styles.
> Jon,  the Stylish extension on Chrome and Firefox didn't respect user
> styles over author inline styles for me.
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> On 1/9/17, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > Thank you for checking the verbiage. Yes, I posted a first attempt at
> > new language in a comment on the GitHub issue. It is at:
> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413
> >
> > According to the SC Managers Phase1 Wiki page, GitHub is the main
> > platform for commenting on SCs. @mbgower proposed refining it a bit:
> >
> >> For all text presented in the content, each of the following is true:
> >>
> >> * word spacing can be adjusted by the user
> >>* line spacing can be adjusted by the user
> >>* paragraph spacing can be adjusted by the user "
> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270822241
> >
> > Mike's language seems simpler. To me the word "adjusted" makes more
> > sense than the word "selected".
> >
> > @patrickhlauke did some user style sheet testing. His findings:
> >
> >> providing that a user stylesheet is
> >> written appropriately, !important in
> >> the author's styles and style
> >> attributes do NOT override the user
> >> styles."
> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-271170859
> >
> > Wayne and Shawn, do either of you have an example of where !important
> > can't be overwritten by users? If so please comment in the GitHub
> > issue.
> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Kindest Regards,
> > Laura
> >
> >
> > On Jan 8, 2017 10:50 AM, "Wayne Dick" <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Laura,
> >> This is exactly right.
> >>
> >> A mechanism does exist- User Style Sheets for Accommodation.
> >>
> >> Did you post this language?
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >> PS: I will attend to font family.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Laura Carlson
> >> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi again,
> >> >
> >> > I added a first attempt at rewording the SC with exemptions.
> >> >
> >> > For the visual presentation of blocks of text:
> >> >
> >> > * character spacing can be selected by the user
> >> > * word spacing can be selected by the user
> >> > * line spacing can be selected by the user
> >> > * paragraph spacing can be selected by the user
> >> >
> >> > with following the exceptions:
> >> >
> >> > * If spacing of content is essential to that contents use, that
> >> > part of the content is exempt.
> >> > * If the user agent prohibits spacing adjustments the content is
> >> > exempt.
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413
> >> >
> >> > Ideas for improvement?
> >> >
> >> > Kindest Regards,
> >> > Laura
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 1/5/17, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hello Low Vision Task Force,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for the discussion on the Spacing SC at today's meeting.
> >> >> Much appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> I commented on the Github Issue to get people's thoughts on the
> >> >> mobile exception approach.
> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-270716413
> >> >>
> >> >> Please chime in with your perspective if you have something to add.
> >> >> Shawn, it would be terrific to have your thoughts in the GitHub
> issue.
> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kindest Regards,
> >> >> Laura
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Laura L. Carlson
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Laura L. Carlson
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
>



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