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Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?

From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 12:46:19 +0000
To: Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu>
CC: "w3c-waI-gl@w3. org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <E6C8FFC7-9FBC-4613-BEE3-1870E9A90417@nomensa.com>
Ah, just found it under “content (Web content)”.

It looks like Java web start is what it says – it starts from the web, but then downloads the application (or enough of it) to run as Java.

The (largely circular) definitions aren’t particularly clear for this, but I don’t think it uses “web pages” as such. It doesn’t render in a user-agent, it downloads the “user-agent” as part of it. 

It is an application package, and the accessibility API for that would surely be via Java, not a separate user agent, therefore it does not render webpages?

Secondly, is this something that would aim to conform to WCAG 2.1, or is ‘legacy’ and limited to 2.0?

Cheers,

-Alastair


On 26/04/2017, 20:32, "Gregg C Vanderheiden" <greggvan@umd.edu> wrote:

    the definition of Web Content is in the definition section of WCAG. 
    
    if something meets that definition  - it would be Web Content as per WCAG.
    
    g
    
    
    Gregg C Vanderheiden
    greggvan@umd.edu
    
    
    
    > On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> wrote:
    > 
    >> If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web content. What is download it is simply a special user agent.
    > 
    > A lot of things can be sent via HTTP.  Remote Desktop can be run over HTTP -- through a special user agent.  This definition might include a lot of things we haven't considered.  PhoneGap wraps web content that uses HTTP.  So does that make PhoneGap a user agent?
    > 
    > Jonathan
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Gregg Vanderheiden RTF [mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org] 
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 2:48 PM
    > To: Laura Carlson
    > Cc: w3c-waI-gl@w3. org; public-low-vision-a11y-tf; James Nurthen
    > Subject: Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?
    > 
    > Can't quite tell from your description. If it is downloaded and installed and then run it is not the web application.
    > 
    > If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web content. What is download it is simply a special user agent.
    > 
    >> From your description it isn't quite clear which of the two cases it is
    > 
    > Gregg
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> 
    >> Hello Everyone,
    >> 
    >> James asked on Oracle's Adapting Text comment [1] if Java Web Start 
    >> [2] [3] is covered by WCAG.  He said, "The application is started from 
    >> a URL and the application is downloaded, installed updated and run 
    >> directly when clicking on a URL in a web page."
    >> 
    >> Thoughts?
    >> 
    >> Thank you.
    >> 
    >> Kindest Regards,
    >> Laura
    >> 
    >> [1] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/222#issuecomment-297476165

    >> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start

    >> [3] https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_webstart.xml

    >> 
    >> --
    >> Laura L. Carlson
    >> 
    > 
    
    
    

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