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Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?

From: Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:44:28 +0200
Cc: James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>, "w3c-waI-gl@w3. org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Message-Id: <6094DB44-A445-4F2A-A36F-9CA26FCD7F2B@umd.edu>
To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
I think the answer to your question is covered by the definitions of 

Web Content
and
Web Page

(user agent is also helpful since it is referenced in web content) 


Gregg C Vanderheiden
greggvan@umd.edu



> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:39 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gregg,
> 
> Did you mean WCAG's Web page definition?
> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#webpagedef
> 
> Or something else?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
> 
> On 4/26/17, James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com> wrote:
>> Can someone point to that definition because I can't find it.
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:32, Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> the definition of Web Content is in the definition section of WCAG.
>>> 
>>> if something meets that definition  - it would be Web Content as per
>>> WCAG.
>>> 
>>> g
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gregg C Vanderheiden
>>> greggvan@umd.edu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web
>>>>> content. What is download it is simply a special user agent.
>>>> 
>>>> A lot of things can be sent via HTTP.  Remote Desktop can be run over
>>>> HTTP -- through a special user agent.  This definition might include a
>>>> lot of things we haven't considered.  PhoneGap wraps web content that
>>>> uses HTTP.  So does that make PhoneGap a user agent?
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Gregg Vanderheiden RTF [mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 2:48 PM
>>>> To: Laura Carlson
>>>> Cc: w3c-waI-gl@w3. org; public-low-vision-a11y-tf; James Nurthen
>>>> Subject: Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?
>>>> 
>>>> Can't quite tell from your description. If it is downloaded and installed
>>>> and then run it is not the web application.
>>>> 
>>>> If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web content.
>>>> What is download it is simply a special user agent.
>>>> 
>>>>> From your description it isn't quite clear which of the two cases it is
>>>> 
>>>> Gregg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> James asked on Oracle's Adapting Text comment [1] if Java Web Start
>>>>> [2] [3] is covered by WCAG.  He said, "The application is started from
>>>>> a URL and the application is downloaded, installed updated and run
>>>>> directly when clicking on a URL in a web page."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>>> Laura
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_issues_222-23issuecomment-2D297476165&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=qCcV_q2_pBoCNU0qmktn3O6iqXJUvRJvTOx3FVtJRZU&e=
>>>>> 
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Java-5FWeb-5FStart&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=ucxbJAZcLaQyGWHQAB4dxyvx_9w3C2uajdYaFXtvIWw&e=
>>>>> 
>>>>> [3]
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.java.com_en_download_faq_java-5Fwebstart.xml&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=cPjasa_fhYvGiueGWfxz6G5pSOhMMmEgajnrJA6lFr8&e=
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Laura L. Carlson
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Laura L. Carlson
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