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Re: Metadata On Hover SC Text

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 21:52:58 +0000
To: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
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I am fine with the any input method portion. 

Jon

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> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alastair, Jon and all,
> 
> If Jon is okay with "available by any input method", I am okay with
> taking out his "available on focus as well as hover" point. Jon?
> 
> We made "not covered or obscured" part of the "fully visible"
> definition hence we removed it from the bullet list.
> 
> The original issue was not not tooltips obscuring other content. The
> original issue the cursor overlapping the tooltip content making the
> tooltip text unreadable. Check the illustrations:
> 
> http://simplyaccessible.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/400percentTitleAttribute.png

> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/File:Obscured_tooltip_footnotes.png

> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/File:Obscured_tooltip_glossary.png

> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/File:Obscured_tooltip_mail.png

> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/File:Obscured_tooltip_firefox.png

> 
> The idea of content appearing on hover obscuring other content was
> added later. So now we are trying to incorporate both issues in this
> one SC.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
> 
>> On 11/17/16, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote:
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> I think “available by any input method” covers “available on focus as well
>> as hover”, we only need the “any” version.
>> 
>> The “not covered or obscured” has disappeared from the wiki, and in the
>> email thread it has switched back again, or I’m going crazy? I thought the
>> problem was the content appearing on hover obscuring other content, in which
>> case it should be:
>> 
>> Informational content which appears on hover that is necessary for
>> understanding must:
>> * be fully visible;
>> * not obscure other content;
>> * be available via any input method.
>> 
>> For the testability section I updated it to match (it is a rather similar to
>> the SC, is that ok?), and I added a possible new technique.
>> 
>> Sounded like a productive meeting in the minutes, I should be there next
>> week ☺
>> 
>> -Alastair
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/11/2016, 20:13, "Laura Carlson" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hi all,
>> 
>>    The latest is at:
>>    https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Metadata_On_Hover

>> 
>>    Alastair, any thoughts on verbiage to update the testablity section?
>> 
>>    All ideas for improvement most welcome.
>> 
>>    Kindest regards,
>>    Laura
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Laura L. Carlson
> 
Received on Thursday, 17 November 2016 21:53:34 UTC

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