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Re: Metadata On Hover SC Text

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:17:59 -0600
Message-ID: <CAOavpvc9bJw0q7EbF8AfWgRKO7ruArvFYyjqo6YoQ5eLEX94Hg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Hi all,

On the call today [1] we discussed changing the word "discernible" to
"fully visible" as it is simpler and sometimes tooltips are clipped.
In addition we discussed changing  "not obscure other content" to
simply "not obscured" to cover both use cases. So incorporating that
and Alastair's and John's latest tweaks (thank you both), we have:

Informational content which appears on hover that is necessary for
understanding must be:
*  fully visible,
*  not obscured,
*  available on focus as well as hover, and
*  available via any input method.

Does that work? I'm still thinking that it may not cover Wayne's use
case. And perhaps Marla's?

Do we need to define "fully visible"? If so maybe "Within the
viewport. Not clipped or truncated."?

Do we need to update the testability section? If so, anyone have
suggested language?

Other thoughts?

Thanks.

Kindest Regards,
Laura
[1] https://www.w3.org/2016/11/17-lvtf-minutes.html#item05

On 11/17/16, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like this Alistair. Sorry about the switch on obscure
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> Katie Haritos-Shea
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:59 AM
> To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>; Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL
> <ryladog@gmail.com>
> Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Metadata On Hover SC Text
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> Katie’s version had:
>> * not obscured by other content,
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> That has been switched from “does not obscure other content” to “not
> obscured by other content”, I think the first one was the intent?
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> However, having a mouse-over that obscures other content is exactly how
> drop-down menus are intended to work, it is too wide.
>
> How about:
> Informational content which appears on hover that is necessary for
> understanding must:
> * be discernible,
> * not obscure other content, and
> * be available via any input method
>
> “Informational content” to remove navigation elements like menus, and
> switching the obscure point back to the original intent.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Alastair
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Laura L. Carlson
Received on Thursday, 17 November 2016 19:18:32 UTC

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