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Re: Finishing up WCAG Icon Font Issue 144 (was Re: Your thoughts on updated "Icon Font with an On-Screen Text Alternative" Technique)

From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 10:37:29 -0500
Message-ID: <CA+=z1WksgvArp7VWYSPn26dThpetg0DU14LgwKJLTEgeNS5S+g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>, Joshue O Connor <josh@interaccess.ie>
Laura,
I reviewed all of the materials associated with Icon Font Techniques. I
don't find any objection to them from any task force member. You have made
recommended updates and corrections.
I will add to the agenda that we make a formal resolution on Thursday to
finish the LVTF review of Icon Font Techniques. I am not sure what happens
after that.

Jim

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jim, Andrew, John, Wayne and all,
>
> Josh has asked [1] if the following updated techniques are ready for
> review by the full HTML WG:
>
> Providing an On-Screen Text Alternative for an Icon Font
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Icon_Font_with_an_On-
> Screen_Text_Alternative
>
> Using aria-hidden="true" on an icon font that AT should ignore
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-hidden%3Dtrue_
> on_an_icon_font_that_AT_should_ignore
>
> What is the next step in finishing up WCAG issue 144 so the Josh can
> get them on a survey?
>
> Thank you.
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> [1] https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/144#issuecomment-240110660
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> On 7/30/16, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
> > After the discussion at the LVTF this week I am really think that Icon
> > Fonts are just icons, images. None really have the same definitive
> meaning
> > as alphanumeric characters or punctuation symbols. They have no precise
> > definition like mathematical symbols. Icon fonts are really non-text
> > content. They are mapped to character sets for convenience, but they are
> > just pictures.
> >
> > Laura, I think your techniques are  a good start. Pictures require text
> > alternatives, and your code is one way to do that. Removing them from the
> > audio flow to prevent silly or incorrect text associated with icon font
> > characters, and then inserting the correct words seems exactly right.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Laura Carlson
> > <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> Thank you for checking the technique and for your offer to help
> >> wordsmith. Much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Kindest regards,
> >> Laura
> >>
> >> On 7/29/16, Rochford, John <john.rochford@umassmed.edu> wrote:
> >> > Hi Laura,
> >> >
> >> > I agree that description is more clear. I can help you wordsmith it
> >> later.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for your work on this.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
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> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 7:30 AM
> >> > To: Low Vision Task Force <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
> >> > Subject: Your thoughts on updated "Icon Font with an On-Screen Text
> >> > Alternative" Technique
> >> >
> >> > Hello Everyone,
> >> >
> >> > Thank you so very much for our discussion yesterday [1].
> >> >
> >> > I updated the description for the "Icon Font with an On-Screen Text
> >> > Alternative" [1] technique trying to incorporate ideas from our
> >> > meeting. It now reads:
> >> >
> >> > <quote>
> >> >
> >> > The objective of this technique is to show how to provide a visible,
> >> > text alternative for an icon font that conveys information.
> >> > Icon fonts are fonts that use the Private Use Area (PUA) of Unicode.
> >> >
> >> > Typically they are inserted in HTML via the CSS @font-face declaration
> >> > and generated content property. Since they are vectors they are
> >> > scalable and resolution-independent.
> >> >
> >> > Icon fonts can have 2 problems:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Some people with disabilities may not use assistive technology (AT)
> >> > and rely on on-screen text alternatives.
> >> >
> >> > 2. For those who do use AT, voicing of icon fonts may be inaccurate,
> >> > nonsensical, redundant, or unpredictable.
> >> >
> >> > To solve these 2 problems aria-hidden="true" is used so AT will
> >> > ignored the icon. Then an on-screen text alternative is added to
> >> > convey meaning to everyone.
> >> >
> >> > <unquote>
> >> >
> >> > Thoughts? Is that clearer? Suggestions for improved verbiage?
> >> >
> >> > In addition, I added a definition section to the document per Andrew's
> >> > suggestion of having an icon font definition. If anyone knows of
> >> > better definitions please let me know and I can revise that section.
> >> > The ones I found are very informal.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you.
> >> > Kindest Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Laura
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://www.w3.org/2016/07/28-lvtf-minutes.html
> >> > [2]
> >> >
> >> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Icon_Font_with_an_On-
> Screen_Text_Alternative
> >> > --
> >> > Laura L. Carlson
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
>



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