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Re: Finishing up WCAG Icon Font Issue 144 (was Re: Your thoughts on updated "Icon Font with an On-Screen Text Alternative" Technique)

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:07:06 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpveU9GVgqV4uB4JtGPBQpuJ5Kfd_ZseRZA0vdi5HZp6xBQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>, Joshue O Connor <josh@interaccess.ie>
Thank you, Jim. Much appreciated.

Kindest Regards,
Laura

On 8/16/16, Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu> wrote:
> Laura,
> I reviewed all of the materials associated with Icon Font Techniques. I
> don't find any objection to them from any task force member. You have made
> recommended updates and corrections.
> I will add to the agenda that we make a formal resolution on Thursday to
> finish the LVTF review of Icon Font Techniques. I am not sure what happens
> after that.
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Laura Carlson
> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim, Andrew, John, Wayne and all,
>>
>> Josh has asked [1] if the following updated techniques are ready for
>> review by the full HTML WG:
>>
>> Providing an On-Screen Text Alternative for an Icon Font
>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Icon_Font_with_an_On-
>> Screen_Text_Alternative
>>
>> Using aria-hidden="true" on an icon font that AT should ignore
>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-hidden%3Dtrue_
>> on_an_icon_font_that_AT_should_ignore
>>
>> What is the next step in finishing up WCAG issue 144 so the Josh can
>> get them on a survey?
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Laura
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/144#issuecomment-240110660
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Laura
>>
>> On 7/30/16, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > After the discussion at the LVTF this week I am really think that Icon
>> > Fonts are just icons, images. None really have the same definitive
>> meaning
>> > as alphanumeric characters or punctuation symbols. They have no precise
>> > definition like mathematical symbols. Icon fonts are really non-text
>> > content. They are mapped to character sets for convenience, but they
>> > are
>> > just pictures.
>> >
>> > Laura, I think your techniques are  a good start. Pictures require text
>> > alternatives, and your code is one way to do that. Removing them from
>> > the
>> > audio flow to prevent silly or incorrect text associated with icon font
>> > characters, and then inserting the correct words seems exactly right.
>> >
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Laura Carlson
>> > <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for checking the technique and for your offer to help
>> >> wordsmith. Much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Kindest regards,
>> >> Laura
>> >>
>> >> On 7/29/16, Rochford, John <john.rochford@umassmed.edu> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Laura,
>> >> >
>> >> > I agree that description is more clear. I can help you wordsmith it
>> >> later.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for your work on this.
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
>> >> > John Rochford<http://profiles.umassmed.edu/profiles/display/132901>
>> >> > UMass Medical School/E.K. Shriver Center
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>> >> > Instructor, Family Medicine & Community Health
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>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com]
>> >> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 7:30 AM
>> >> > To: Low Vision Task Force <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
>> >> > Subject: Your thoughts on updated "Icon Font with an On-Screen Text
>> >> > Alternative" Technique
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello Everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you so very much for our discussion yesterday [1].
>> >> >
>> >> > I updated the description for the "Icon Font with an On-Screen Text
>> >> > Alternative" [1] technique trying to incorporate ideas from our
>> >> > meeting. It now reads:
>> >> >
>> >> > <quote>
>> >> >
>> >> > The objective of this technique is to show how to provide a visible,
>> >> > text alternative for an icon font that conveys information.
>> >> > Icon fonts are fonts that use the Private Use Area (PUA) of Unicode.
>> >> >
>> >> > Typically they are inserted in HTML via the CSS @font-face
>> >> > declaration
>> >> > and generated content property. Since they are vectors they are
>> >> > scalable and resolution-independent.
>> >> >
>> >> > Icon fonts can have 2 problems:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Some people with disabilities may not use assistive technology
>> >> > (AT)
>> >> > and rely on on-screen text alternatives.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. For those who do use AT, voicing of icon fonts may be inaccurate,
>> >> > nonsensical, redundant, or unpredictable.
>> >> >
>> >> > To solve these 2 problems aria-hidden="true" is used so AT will
>> >> > ignored the icon. Then an on-screen text alternative is added to
>> >> > convey meaning to everyone.
>> >> >
>> >> > <unquote>
>> >> >
>> >> > Thoughts? Is that clearer? Suggestions for improved verbiage?
>> >> >
>> >> > In addition, I added a definition section to the document per
>> >> > Andrew's
>> >> > suggestion of having an icon font definition. If anyone knows of
>> >> > better definitions please let me know and I can revise that section.
>> >> > The ones I found are very informal.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you.
>> >> > Kindest Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Laura
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] https://www.w3.org/2016/07/28-lvtf-minutes.html
>> >> > [2]
>> >> >
>> >> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Icon_Font_with_an_On-
>> Screen_Text_Alternative
>> >> > --
>> >> > Laura L. Carlson
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>>
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Laura L. Carlson
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