- From: Henry Story <henry.story@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:43:30 +0100
- To: public-lod@w3.org
- Cc: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>, Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net>
Following my reply to Dick Gannon, I added two extra uses cases to the 10 I had listed previously • Trusting Linked Data • Provenance Both of those will also I think need an institutional Web of Trust. I linked to the answer I gave in the mailing list for the first one and cite the PROV work in the second. https://medium.com/@bblfish/use-cases-for-the-web-of-nations-361c24d5eaee I also improved the grammar of the blog post. Look forward to some more feedback :-) Henry > On 15 Mar 2020, at 19:30, Henry Story <henry.story@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 15 Mar 2020, at 18:35, Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Henry, >> >> >> (Country Profiles) >> https://www.purl.org/pii/country/profiles > > Let me go through a few epistemological steps, to > make the point of the blog post. The question we are > asking is: how can I trust the info I am reading? > Let’s start. > > ---- > > Your purl redirects to secure6.securewebexchange.com . > Who owns that company? > As a techy I can find this out like this: > > $ whois securewebexchange.com | grep Admin > Registrant Name: Domain Admin > Registry Admin ID: > Admin Name: Domain Admin > Admin Organization: Deluxe Enterprise Operations, LLC > Admin Street: 2300 Glades Rd, Suite #301E > Admin City: Boca Raton > Admin State/Province: FL > Admin Postal Code: 33431 > Admin Country: US > Admin Phone: +1.8003229438 > Admin Phone Ext.: > Admin Fax: > Admin Fax Ext.: > Admin Email: corp-domains@aplus.net > Tech Name: Domain Admin > > FL stands for Florida (I know that as a techy who has worked on the web > for 28 years, and on started discovering the internet in the 1980ies). > > So this is a company declared to be in Florida. > But I also know that this information is self declared info, so is > it correct? Is there a big legal obligation to keep this data correct? > > When I first go to that Web Site the browser should be able to immediately > find a link from the web site, and get official information from > the Florida business state registrar, and show me that, to tell > me what kind of company it is, who the owners are, what kind of > business they are, etc… This should be done in an intuitive UI > that everybody can understand, perhaps even with a map of the > globe to show people where Florida is. (It may be obvious to > people in the US, but many people around the world will not > know and neither will children, or even many teenagers.) > > Anyway I guess what you wanted to look at were the links in the > data found there. Each one of them points to a CIA factsheet > page. Eg. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ax.html > > Who is the CIA? Is that web site real? We here know because we know > that .gov is owned by the US government. How many people know that? > Especially outside the US? Do you know what the chinese government > web site is, or the Japanese, or that of Pakistan? or Russia? > (And if you do, how long did it take you to make sure?) > > And then is it reasonable to ask people around the world to trust > US Central Intelligence Agency data about what they think of countries? > (Assuming you think that data should be used by browsers, or people > should use it to evaluate countries? I am not sure because you > don’t give any context to your links) > > Furthermore the data there tells us what the CIA thinks of a country, > but not about the company we landed on. Eg. securewebexchange.com. > What I want to know as a UK citizen is what my country’s diplomatic > relations with the country in which the company behind a web site is located, > and what that country’s company registry says about that company, > what its domain of expertise is. > > >> >> (Dashboards) >> https://www.purl.org/pii/usa/county/profiles > > Ok so here I guess you are trying to link to a profile on data on influenza. > The company publishing this data is securewebexchange.com again. > Who is that company? Can I rely on them? How do I know? What legal > jurisdiction are they in? Are they really in florida or did they have > a PO box there, and are actually remote? What is their financial situation? > In short why should I trust the data there? > > Furthermore part of the data is loaded from a different site, so that > the browser gives me a warning as to the security of it. > > The smileys on the page link to > http://www.rustprivacy.org/2019/county/XHTML/45.40OK375.html > > who are they? They also have an insecure connection my browser > tells me. Whois tells me very little about the company behind > the web site. It gives me an 0800 number and tells me it is in > FL (Florida?). Are they in Medicine? Why should I trust their > data? > > So you gave me data that may be correct but that I can’t really use, > because I have no idea what the agent making the claim is responsible > for. > > —— > > Hopefully that helps make clear why the Web of Nations institutional > web of trust is needed. :-) > So thanks for the use case. > > https://medium.com/@bblfish/use-cases-for-the-web-of-nations-361c24d5eaee > > Henry Story > >> >> >> On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 11:17:45 AM CDT, Henry Story <henry.story@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> ”Trust is the Oil of the Future” someone wrote >> recently [1]. >> And so the question is how does one rebuild trust when, >> at a global scale, peer to peer connections by themselves >> cannot be enough. How can people who retweet some info >> about say Covid19 know that the information comes from a >> trusted source? Indeed how do you know? >> >> I put together 10 use cases as to how Linked Data can >> help here that cover everything from trusting small web sites, >> to stopping phishing, to stemming fake news, helping >> anchor verifiable claims, as well as help build less intrusive >> interfaces for GDPR. >> >> https://medium.com/@bblfish/use-cases-for-the-web-of-nations-361c24d5eaee >> >> I’d be interested in any comments on this, and look forward to >> adding any ideas that I may have missed. >> >> Henry Story >> >> [1] https://twitter.com/GarethPresch/status/1239144639782891520 > >
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