- From: Andrea Splendiani <andrea.splendiani@iscb.org>
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 12:47:03 +0100
- To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord)
- Cc: Alexander Garcia Castro <alexgarciac@gmail.com>, <beyond-the-pdf@googlegroups.com>, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>, Linking Open Data <public-lod@w3.org>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>
Hi, Do you actually know that Springer is paying something ? I don't think publishers pay, usually. best, Andrea Il giorno 14/mag/2013, alle ore 10:51, phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) ha scritto: > > > Dump Springer, and just publish the results on arXiv. If ESWC cannot > organise a conference at 800 Euro a pop, without cash from Springer, > then perhaps they should try getting a cheaper venue. > > Better still, let's separate out the committees, the publication, and > the conference. The committees can look at papers, they can all be > published on arxiv. And people who want can go to the conference. > > Phil > > > Alexander Garcia Castro <alexgarciac@gmail.com> writes: >> the question is simple. both, eswc and iswc are prominent conferences >> because of a serious review process, a well structured set of >> committees working hard at the time of organization... but most of >> all, because we the community have accepted both conferences to be >> important. this will not change. so my point is, are publishers >> contributing with money, serious money, to the organization of the >> conferences? how are they buying and how are we selling the >> publication rights? If tomorrow there were no springer how much would >> that affect the finances of eswc and iswc? substantially? why not >> enforcing an open publication policy for iswc and eswc? why not >> selling publication rights as a bidding process? >> >> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rowe, Matthew <m.rowe@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote: >>> As authors of accepted papers, don't we have the right to disseminate our >>> work as a pre-prints anyway? I just put mine online anyway, and always have >>> done (and will do) for people to download and read. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> On 14 May 2013, at 10:12, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ISWC and ESWC are a particular problem because they are both Springer. I >>>> pulled my paper from publication last year, as they would not do an open >>>> access option. >>>> >>>> So, with the situation as it stands, I cannot publish any semantic web >>>> research in either of these two conferences. >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> Alexander Garcia Castro <alexgarciac@gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> conferences are important on their own. for instance, right now the >>>>> ISWC is an important conference regardless of the publisher of the >>>>> proceedings. if I wanted to get the 2012 proceedings I may have to pay >>>>> (http://www.springer.com/computer/ai/book/978-3-642-35172-3). do >>>>> publishers pay the ISWC organizers for the right to publish the >>>>> proceedings? I mean, as things are now the ISWC brings people to >>>>> springer, not the other way around. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Leon Derczynski <leon@dcs.shef.ac.uk> wrote: >>>>>> Reliable dissemination. >>>>>> >>>>>> CEUR-WS, ACL Anthology et al. do a valuable, critical job. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 May 2013 17:25, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we subscribe to science, free and open access to knowledge, what's the >>>>>>> purpose of the arrangement between conferences and publishers? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Sarven >>>>>>> http://csarven.ca/#i >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Leon R A Derczynski >>>>>> Research Associate, NLP Group >>>>>> >>>>>> Department of Computer Science >>>>>> University of Sheffield >>>>>> Regent Court, 211 Portobello >>>>>> Sheffield S1 4DP, UK >>>>>> >>>>>> +45 5157 4948 >>>>>> http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~leon/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "Beyond the PDF" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>>> email to beyond-the-pdf+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Alexander Garcia >>>>> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/ >>>>> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Phillip Lord, Phone: +44 (0) 191 222 7827 >>>> Lecturer in Bioinformatics, Email: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk >>>> School of Computing Science, http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/phillip.lord >>>> Room 914 Claremont Tower, skype: russet_apples >>>> Newcastle University, twitter: phillord >>>> NE1 7RU >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Beyond the PDF" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beyond-the-pdf+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> > > -- > Phillip Lord, Phone: +44 (0) 191 222 7827 > Lecturer in Bioinformatics, Email: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk > School of Computing Science, http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/phillip.lord > Room 914 Claremont Tower, skype: russet_apples > Newcastle University, twitter: phillord > NE1 7RU >
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