Re: Licensing advice

Dear Víctor, Tom, all,

Maybe I've missed something but if what is going to be licensed are R2RML
mappings, for me this is code.

As Víctor quoted, a computer program is (WIPO): "a set of instructions, which
controls the operations of a computer in order to enable it to perform a
specific task".

This is just what happens with R2RML mappings, they are based on a
metalanguage that is read by a computer using a R2RML interpreter
(implemented using another programming language but just similar to a
compiler) that at last executes a set of instructions that read data from a
source and generate a data stream in the output...

My 2c,


Roberto


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Víctor Rodríguez Doncel <
vrodriguez@fi.upm.es> wrote:

>
> Well, ODC data licenses include *both* copyrights and database rights.
> So you dont give up your claims for having made a creative work...
>
> Víctor
>
> El 24/07/2013 10:38, Tom Heath escribió:
>
> Just seen this thread, apols for the slow response Barry...
>
> Of course IANAL and all that, but I disagree with Victor's conclusion.
>
> I would argue that the individual mappings are creative works (as you
> say), and therefore a CC license would apply (better still, why not
> apply a public domain waiver so they're totally open?).
>
> The collection as a whole would probably qualify as a database, at
> which point Victor's points about a DB license would be relevant.
>
> As others have mentioned, the data created by the execution of these
> mappings is another issue altogether, which you seem to have covered.
>
> My 2p worth -- hope it helps :)
>
> Tom.
>
>
> On 12 July 2013 21:38, Víctor Rodríguez Doncel <vrodriguez@fi.upm.es> <vrodriguez@fi.upm.es> wrote:
>
>  Barry,
>
> My opinion is the following:
>
> 1. Code license NO. A computer program is (WIPO): "a set of instructions,
> which controls the operations of a computer in order to enable it to perform
> a specific task"
> 2. Intellectual Property. I'd say no in this case. Some databases are
> protected by IP law. They are if they can assumed to be "collections of
> literary or artistic works such as encyclopaedias and anthologies which, by
> reason of the selection and arrangement of their contents, constitute
> intellectual creations, are to be protected as such, without prejudice to
> the copyright in each of the works forming part of such collections".
> So, if you have made your mapping automatically, they are NOT under the
> umbrella of IP laws.
> 3. Database law. YES (where it applies). Relaxing the requirements, a sui
> generis rights is defined in Europe to protect your database if you have
> made an investment (in time or money) when making the database. Rights
> (extraction and reutilization) are kept for 15 years and are not recognized
> in USA and many other countries.
>
> --> Conclusion. Instead of using CreativeCommon licenses (excepting CC0
> which is ok), use Data Licenses (for example ODC), which include in their
> text a reference to the European database law.
>
> Regards,
> Víctor
>
> El 12/07/2013 21:30, Barry Norton escribió:
>
>
> Incidentally, to clarify, I meant to ask a more fundamental question about
> mappings: are these creative works, deserving themselves of a CC license, or
> executable code, deserving of a code license?
>
> Whichever way, I'd like to make them as encumbered as possible.
>
> Barry
>
>
> On 12/07/13 13:20, Barry Norton wrote:
>
>
> I'd like to publicly release R2RML mappings for the MusicBrainz dataset.
> DBpedia has shown interest in including the subset that can be used to
> create a linkset.
>
> Any idea what (kind of) licence could/should apply? (To be clear, to the
> mappings, as opposed to the dataset)
>
> I'd also like to attach, since R2RML is RDF, a licence and attribution on a
> per rr:TriplesMap basis. (The mappings are hosted on github and
> contributions will be accepted as I'm never going to get through all of the
> MB Advanced Relationships, a moving target, myself and I'm being a
> bottleneck.)
>
> The question's also been raised on whether a given licence can in turn
> impose conditions on the triples that are created using it (as derivative
> works)? Does that sound feasible?
>
> Any input appreciated.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
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>
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>
>
> --
> Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
> D3205 - Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
> Facultad de Informática
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>
> Campus de Montegancedo s/n
> Boadilla del Monte-28660 Madrid, Spain
> Tel. (+34) 91336 3672
> Skype: vroddon3
>
>