Re: Licensing advice

Well, ODC data licenses include *both* copyrights and database rights.
So you dont give up your claims for having made a creative work...

Víctor

El 24/07/2013 10:38, Tom Heath escribió:
> Just seen this thread, apols for the slow response Barry...
>
> Of course IANAL and all that, but I disagree with Victor's conclusion.
>
> I would argue that the individual mappings are creative works (as you
> say), and therefore a CC license would apply (better still, why not
> apply a public domain waiver so they're totally open?).
>
> The collection as a whole would probably qualify as a database, at
> which point Victor's points about a DB license would be relevant.
>
> As others have mentioned, the data created by the execution of these
> mappings is another issue altogether, which you seem to have covered.
>
> My 2p worth -- hope it helps :)
>
> Tom.
>
>
> On 12 July 2013 21:38, Víctor Rodríguez Doncel <vrodriguez@fi.upm.es> wrote:
>> Barry,
>>
>> My opinion is the following:
>>
>> 1. Code license NO. A computer program is (WIPO): "a set of instructions,
>> which controls the operations of a computer in order to enable it to perform
>> a specific task"
>> 2. Intellectual Property. I'd say no in this case. Some databases are
>> protected by IP law. They are if they can assumed to be "collections of
>> literary or artistic works such as encyclopaedias and anthologies which, by
>> reason of the selection and arrangement of their contents, constitute
>> intellectual creations, are to be protected as such, without prejudice to
>> the copyright in each of the works forming part of such collections".
>> So, if you have made your mapping automatically, they are NOT under the
>> umbrella of IP laws.
>> 3. Database law. YES (where it applies). Relaxing the requirements, a sui
>> generis rights is defined in Europe to protect your database if you have
>> made an investment (in time or money) when making the database. Rights
>> (extraction and reutilization) are kept for 15 years and are not recognized
>> in USA and many other countries.
>>
>> --> Conclusion. Instead of using CreativeCommon licenses (excepting CC0
>> which is ok), use Data Licenses (for example ODC), which include in their
>> text a reference to the European database law.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Víctor
>>
>> El 12/07/2013 21:30, Barry Norton escribió:
>>
>>
>> Incidentally, to clarify, I meant to ask a more fundamental question about
>> mappings: are these creative works, deserving themselves of a CC license, or
>> executable code, deserving of a code license?
>>
>> Whichever way, I'd like to make them as encumbered as possible.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/13 13:20, Barry Norton wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'd like to publicly release R2RML mappings for the MusicBrainz dataset.
>> DBpedia has shown interest in including the subset that can be used to
>> create a linkset.
>>
>> Any idea what (kind of) licence could/should apply? (To be clear, to the
>> mappings, as opposed to the dataset)
>>
>> I'd also like to attach, since R2RML is RDF, a licence and attribution on a
>> per rr:TriplesMap basis. (The mappings are hosted on github and
>> contributions will be accepted as I'm never going to get through all of the
>> MB Advanced Relationships, a moving target, myself and I'm being a
>> bottleneck.)
>>
>> The question's also been raised on whether a given licence can in turn
>> impose conditions on the triples that are created using it (as derivative
>> works)? Does that sound feasible?
>>
>> Any input appreciated.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
>> D3205 - Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
>> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
>> Facultad de Informática
>> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>>
>> Campus de Montegancedo s/n
>> Boadilla del Monte-28660 Madrid, Spain
>> Tel. (+34) 91336 3672
>> Skype: vroddon3
>
>


-- 
Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
D3205 - Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
Facultad de Informática
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid

Campus de Montegancedo s/n
Boadilla del Monte-28660 Madrid, Spain
Tel. (+34) 91336 3672
Skype: vroddon3