- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:05:24 +0100
- To: public-lod@w3.org
On 6/9/11 9:58 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: > >> For how little this matters really - i'd really advice anyone wanting >> to produce RDFa of schema to live with it and use direct >> http://schema.org uris as per their example in RDFa. URL of the example in question? Kingsley > > +1 > > Cheers, > Michael > -- > Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow > LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre > DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute > NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway > Ireland, Europe > Tel. +353 91 495730 > http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ > http://sw-app.org/about.html > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 09:54, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: > >> my2c >> >> i would seriously advice against using triples with >> http://schema.rdfs.org . >> >> That would be totally and entirely validating their claim that either >> you impose things or fragmentation will distroy everything and that >> talking to the community is a waste of time. >> >> For how little this matters really - i'd really advice anyone wanting >> to produce RDFa of schema to live with it and use direct >> http://schema.org uris as per their example in RDFa. >> >> Gio >> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Patrick Logan >> <patrickdlogan@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Would it be reasonable to use http://schema.rdfs.org rather than >>> http://schema.org in the URIs? Essentially mirror what one might hope >>> for schema.org to become. Then if it does become that, link the two >>> together? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Michael Hausenblas >>> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote: >>>>> Something I don't understand. If I read well all savvy discussions >>>>> so far, >>>>> publishers behind http://schema.org URIs are unlikely to ever >>>>> provide any >>>>> RDF description, >>>> >>>> What makes you so sure about that not one day in the (near?) future >>>> the >>>> Schema.org URIs will serve RDF or JSON, FWIW, additionally to HTML? ;) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Michael >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre >>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>> Ireland, Europe >>>> Tel. +353 91 495730 >>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ >>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html >>>> >>>> On 7 Jun 2011, at 08:44, Bernard Vatant wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> Something I don't understand. If I read well all savvy discussions >>>>> so far, >>>>> publishers behind http://schema.org URIs are unlikely to ever >>>>> provide any >>>>> RDF description, so why are those URIs declared as identifiers of >>>>> RDFS >>>>> classes in the http://schema.rdfs.org/all.rdf. For all I can see, >>>>> http://schema.org/Person is the URI of an information resource, >>>>> not of a >>>>> class. >>>>> So I would rather have expected mirroring of the schema.org URIs by >>>>> schema.rdfs.org URIs, the later fully dereferencable proper RDFS >>>>> classes >>>>> expliciting the semantics of the former, while keeping the >>>>> reference to the >>>>> source in some dcterms:source element. >>>>> >>>>> Example, instead of ... >>>>> >>>>> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://schema.org/Person"> >>>>> <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Class"/> >>>>> <rdfs:label xml:lang="en">Person</rdfs:label> >>>>> <rdfs:comment xml:lang="en">A person (alive, dead, undead, or >>>>> fictional).</rdfs:comment> >>>>> <rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="http://schema.org/Thing"/> >>>>> <rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource="http://schema.org/Person"/> >>>>> </rdf:Description> >>>>> >>>>> where I see a clear abuse of rdfs:isDefinedBy, since if you >>>>> dereference >>>>> the said URI, you don't find any explicit RDF definition ... >>>>> >>>>> I would rather have the following >>>>> >>>>> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://schema.rdfs.org/Person"> >>>>> <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Class"/> >>>>> <rdfs:label xml:lang="en">Person</rdfs:label> >>>>> <rdfs:comment xml:lang="en">A person (alive, dead, undead, or >>>>> fictional).</rdfs:comment> >>>>> <rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="http://schema.rdfs.org/Thing"/> >>>>> <dcterms:source rdf:resource="http://schema.org/Person"/> >>>>> </rdf:Description> >>>>> >>>>> To the latter declaration, one could safely add statements like >>>>> >>>>> schema.rdfs:Person rdfs:subClassOf foaf:Person >>>>> >>>>> etc >>>>> >>>>> Or do I miss the point? >>>>> >>>>> Bernard >>>>> >>>>> 2011/6/3 Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> >>>>> >>>>> http://schema.rdfs.org >>>>> >>>>> ... is now available - we're sorry for the delay ;) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Michael >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre >>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>> Tel. +353 91 495730 >>>>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ >>>>> http://sw-app.org/about.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bernard Vatant >>>>> Senior Consultant >>>>> Vocabulary & Data Integration >>>>> Tel: +33 (0) 971 488 459 >>>>> Mail: bernard.vatant@mondeca.com >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Mondeca >>>>> 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France >>>>> Web: http://www.mondeca.com >>>>> Blog: http://mondeca.wordpress.com >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen President& CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
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