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Re: Is 303 really necessary - demo

From: Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@insa-lyon.fr>
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:14:39 +0100
Message-ID: <4CD43B7F.1010606@insa-lyon.fr>
To: nathan@webr3.org
CC: public-lod@w3.org
Le 05/11/2010 18:01, Nathan a écrit :
> Antoine Zimmermann wrote:
>> Le 05/11/2010 16:42, Nathan a écrit :
>>> [skip]
>>>
>>> Sadly your proposed 210 still has it, the true problem isn't a status
>>> code thing, it's an "if I can GET it, it's a document", hence the
>>> earlier outlined problems with 303 as it stands, still the same problem.
>>
>> So, you are against hash URIs? Because if you can GET a hashless URI
>> with 200 OK, then put a hash behind it and you can GET the resulting
>> URI with a 200 OK too.
>>
>> According to httpRange-14, if the HTTP response code for a given URI
>> is 2xx, then the URI denotes an information resource. Quote:
>>
>> """
>> a) If an "http" resource responds to a GET request with a
>> 2xx response, then the resource identified by that URI
>> is an information resource;
>> """
>>
>> GET http://liris.cnrs.fr/~azimmerm/antoine -> 200 OK -> it's a document!
>>
>> GET http://liris.cnrs.fr/~azimmerm/antoine#me -> 200 OK -> it's a
>> document!
>>
>> GET http://liris.cnrs.fr/~azimmerm/antoine.rdf -> 200 OK -> it's a
>> document!
>>
>> So your argument is moot since it is going against your own
>> recommendation.
>
> Did you check the HTTP request? #frag isn't included, it's chopped off
> before sending, those three requests resulted in the following 3 URIs
> being requested:
>
> http://liris.cnrs.fr/~azimmerm/antoine
> http://liris.cnrs.fr/~azimmerm/antoine
> http://liris.cnrs.fr/~azimmerm/antoine.rdf
>
> no frags, un-mooted.

Ah yes, forgot this small detail :p.
So obviously, a hash URI cannot resolve to 2xx since it cannot resolve 
at all!  But, in the end, isn't it quite the same principle: I use a 
distinct URI that eventually resolves to the same document?

>
> Best,
>
> Nathan
>


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