- From: Nathan <nathan@webr3.org>
- Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:28:55 +0000
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- CC: Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>
Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Nathan wrote: >> Hugh Glaser wrote: >> >>> Wow Nathan, that's an interesting set of reactions - we could go off and >>> discuss them, but I will give my 3 cents on the original question. >>> >>> I too have difficulty with customers on the "Open" word. >>> Open can mean a few things, and some of the posters here seem to >>> interpret >>> it to mean open standards. >>> My interpretation has been that the data is open; as it says at the >>> start of >>> the project page [1]: >>> "The Open Data Movement aims at making data freely available to >>> everyone ... >>> The goal of the W3C SWEO Linking Open Data community project is to >>> extend >>> the Web with a data commons by publishing various open data sets as >>> RDF on >>> the Web and by setting RDF links between data items from different data >>> sources." >>> So it is Linking Open Data, not something like Open Linked Data. >>> So personally I have used Linked Data quite a lot, sometimes as >>> Linked Data >>> Technologies. >>> I take it to mean the same thing as Linking Open Data, but where the >>> data is >>> not necessarily open - this is important for a customer that wants to >>> use >>> the (whole) technology stack, but does not want to make their data open. >>> "Open" can really freak people out >>> I avoid Semantic Web, as that is often received as primarily doing AI. >>> More recently I have also badged as Web of Data; don't know if Michael >>> started it, but you do see it around. Sort of a good capture of the >>> ideas. >>> I also talk about an application using the Unbounded Web of Data, if it >>> actually goes out and fetches RDF on finding links. >>> Finally, if I am pushed to use Semantic Web (ie that is what they come >>> with), I always say I work in Semantic Web Technologies. >>> As someone who works on the software, it can be very useful to append >>> technologies to whatever phrase I use:- otherwise the assumption is >>> that the >>> work is primarily concerned with building ontologies or transforming >>> datasets, rather than infrastructure development. >>> >>> I don't think that either Linked Data (Technologies) or Web of Data >>> addresses your problems that customers think they already have it in Web >>> Services; I usually talk about moving from point to point vocabularies >>> towards widely agreed vocabularies at that stage, and through to >>> unbounded. >>> >>> Best >>> Hugh >>> >>> [1] >>> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData# >>> >>> head-277d7f68544ce1a9e252f5c0080b6402cd983a49 >>> [2] http://www.webofdata.info/ >>> [3] http://webofdata.wordpress.com/ >>> >> >> Ahh ty, I can see Web of Data, and Linked Data Technologies both being >> thrown in to a conversation when discussing Linked Data in broad >> strokes. Also it had slipped my mind till now but there's always the >> Giant Global Graph reference too - Web of Data seems to set the tone and >> paint the ideal mental picture for further communications though (ie >> makes sense to me)! >> >> Regards >> >> >> > Here are issue against "Web of Data" : > > 1. most people assumed a Web of Data from the onset of the Web > 2. the fact that a document may or may not host structured data doesn't > invalidate it as a "unit of data" albeit compound in nature (re. innards). > > Thus, based on the items above, whether its a Web of Documents or a Web > of Data, we don't end up with immediate clarity re. what the new Web > interaction dimension is all about. > > I use Web of Linked Data because its easy for juxtaposition re. Web of > Documents or Web of Data since neither convey implicit linkage of the > kind delivered by generic HTTP URIs :-) > :-) Even better! Creating a Web of Linked Data - Linked Data - The Web of Linked Data - Linked Data Technologies - etc Nice and neat, I like it. Thanks, Nathan
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