- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:39 -0400
- To: Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@talis.com>
- CC: Ian Davis <lists@iandavis.com>, public-lod@w3.org
Leigh Dodds wrote: > Hi, > > 2009/6/24 Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>: > >> To save time etc.. >> >> What is the URI of a license that effectively enables data publishers to >> express and enforce how they are attributed? Whatever that is I am happy >> with. Whatever that is will be vital to attracting curators of high quality >> data to the LOD fold. >> >> If you have a an example URI even better. >> > > You can chose from several at http://www.opendatacommons.org/ > > >> Take a look at Freebase, and how they are effectively doing what I espouse. >> Google uses Freebase URIs, and they attribute by URI. >> > > I have. I've read the licensing, terms and policies of a number of > different websites. > > >> I see Freebase using CC-BY-SA to effectively propagate their URIs. I also >> see all consumers of Freebase URIs honoring the terms without any issues. >> > > Really? I'm not trying to be unfair, but where on: > You're not being unfair. We are trying to get to the bottom of something that really important. > http://lod.openlinksw.com/ > > Or > > http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffreebase.com%2Fguid%2F9202a8c04000641f80000000083d84dd > The URIs are in full view. Use a Linked Data Aware user agent against the URIs and you end up in the originating Freebase Data Space. This is my fundamental point re. preservation of original URIs. > Are the attributions required in: > > http://www.freebase.com/signin/licensing > > A link to the topic page isn't enough based on the terms that Freebase > currently publish. I'm not saying I agree with them, as clearly they > don't scale well in the large. They've also not defined an attribution > policy for data linking. And if they don't care enough about the > attribution to follow-up, then why not publish it under a > non-attribution license in the first place? > The source of the data in our data space is crystal clear by virtue of URI visibility. Just look at the Entity URI associated with the text following "About:" (the @href value). We are saying: this page is about a resource in the Freebase Data Space and we use the Freebase URI in @href. In short, just click on it and see what happens :-) You can use ODE, DISCO, Zitgist Data Viewer, or Tabulator etc. to explore the URIs, and you will end up in the originating data space of a given entity. Now for the problems re. our pages: Our embedded RDFa produces: <rdf:RDF> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/"> <xhv:alternate rdf:resource="http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql?query=DESCRIBE%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Ffreebase.com%2Fguid%2F9202a8c04000641f80000000083d84dd%3E"/> <xhv:stylesheet rdf:resource="http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/styles/default.css"/> <xhv:stylesheet rdf:resource="http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/styles/highlighter.css"/> <xhv:license rdf:resource="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"/> </rdf:Description> </rdf:RDF> That's wrong, it should be: <rdf:RDF> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://freebase.com/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000083d84dd"> <xhv:alternate rdf:resource="http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql?query=DESCRIBE%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Ffreebase.com%2Fguid%2F9202a8c04000641f80000000083d84dd%3E"/> <xhv:stylesheet rdf:resource="http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/styles/default.css"/> <xhv:stylesheet rdf:resource="http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/styles/highlighter.css"/> <xhv:license rdf:resource="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"/> </rdf:Description> </rdf:RDF> Kingsley > Cheers, > > L. > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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