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Re: Size matters -- How big is the danged thing

From: Aldo Bucchi <aldo.bucchi@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:02:54 -0300
Message-ID: <7a4ebe1d0811211502u13841c4bsdb6cecaf36a65fab@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: public-lod@w3.org

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
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> Yves Raimond wrote:
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>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Giovanni Tummarello
>> <giovanni.tummarello@deri.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Overall, that's about 17 billion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> IMO considering myspace 12 billion triples as part of LOD, is quite a
>>> stretch (same with other wrappers) unless they are provided by the
>>> entity itself (E.g. i WOULD count in livejournal foaf file on the
>>> other hand, ok they're not linked but they're not less useful than the
>>> myspace wrapper are they? (in fact they are linked quite well if you
>>> use the google social API)
>>>
>>
>> Actually, I don't think I can agree with that. Whether we want it or
>> not, most of the data we publish (all of it, apart from specific cases
>> e.g. review) is provided by wrappers of some sort, e.g. Virtuoso, D2R,
>> P2R, web services wrapper etc. Hence, it makes not sense trying to
>> distinguish datasets on the basis they're published through a
>> "wrapper" or not.
>>
>> Within LOD, we only segregate datasets for inclusion in the diagram on
>> the basis they are published according to linked data principles. The
>> stats I sent reflect just that: some stats about the datasets
>> currently in the diagram.
>>
>> The origin of the data shouldn't matter. The fact that it is published
>> according to linked data principles and linked to at least one dataset
>> in the cloud should matter.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Giovanni
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yves,
>
> I agree. But I am sure you can also see the inherent futility in pursuing
> the size of the pure Linked Data Web :-)  The moment you arrive at a number
> it will be obsolete :-)
>
> I would frame the question this way: is LOD hub now dense enough for basic
> demonstrations of Linked Data Web utility to everyday Web users? For
> example, can we "Find" stuff on the Web with levels of precision and
> serendipity erstwhile unattainable? Can we now tag stuff on the Web in a
> manner that makes tagging useful? Can we alleviate the daily costs of Spam
> on mail inboxes? Can all of the aforementioned provide the basis for
> relevant discourse discovery and participation?

Sorry, this is getting too interesting to stay in lurker mode ;)

Kingsley, absolutely. We have got to that point. The fun part has begun.

To quote Jim, who started this thread:

http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/03/jim_hendler_talks_about_the_se.php

Go to minute 28 aprox ( I can't listen to it here, I just blocked mp3's ).
Jim touches on how a geo corpus can be used to dissambiguate tags on flickr.
This is one such use, low hanging fruit wrt the huge amount of linked
data, and a first timer in terms of IT.

This was not possible last year!
It is now.

I guess that is THE question now: What can we do this year that we
couldn't do last year?
( thanks to the massive amount of available LOD ).

Best,
A

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> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen       Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> President & CEO OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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