- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:11:19 -0500
- To: Aldo Bucchi <aldo.bucchi@gmail.com>
- CC: public-lod@w3.org
Aldo Bucchi wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: > >> Yves Raimond wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Giovanni Tummarello >>> <giovanni.tummarello@deri.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> Overall, that's about 17 billion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> IMO considering myspace 12 billion triples as part of LOD, is quite a >>>> stretch (same with other wrappers) unless they are provided by the >>>> entity itself (E.g. i WOULD count in livejournal foaf file on the >>>> other hand, ok they're not linked but they're not less useful than the >>>> myspace wrapper are they? (in fact they are linked quite well if you >>>> use the google social API) >>>> >>>> >>> Actually, I don't think I can agree with that. Whether we want it or >>> not, most of the data we publish (all of it, apart from specific cases >>> e.g. review) is provided by wrappers of some sort, e.g. Virtuoso, D2R, >>> P2R, web services wrapper etc. Hence, it makes not sense trying to >>> distinguish datasets on the basis they're published through a >>> "wrapper" or not. >>> >>> Within LOD, we only segregate datasets for inclusion in the diagram on >>> the basis they are published according to linked data principles. The >>> stats I sent reflect just that: some stats about the datasets >>> currently in the diagram. >>> >>> The origin of the data shouldn't matter. The fact that it is published >>> according to linked data principles and linked to at least one dataset >>> in the cloud should matter. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Giovanni >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> Yves, >> >> I agree. But I am sure you can also see the inherent futility in pursuing >> the size of the pure Linked Data Web :-) The moment you arrive at a number >> it will be obsolete :-) >> >> I would frame the question this way: is LOD hub now dense enough for basic >> demonstrations of Linked Data Web utility to everyday Web users? For >> example, can we "Find" stuff on the Web with levels of precision and >> serendipity erstwhile unattainable? Can we now tag stuff on the Web in a >> manner that makes tagging useful? Can we alleviate the daily costs of Spam >> on mail inboxes? Can all of the aforementioned provide the basis for >> relevant discourse discovery and participation? >> > > Sorry, this is getting too interesting to stay in lurker mode ;) > > Kingsley, absolutely. We have got to that point. The fun part has begun. > > To quote Jim, who started this thread: > > http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/03/jim_hendler_talks_about_the_se.php > > Go to minute 28 aprox ( I can't listen to it here, I just blocked mp3's ). > Jim touches on how a geo corpus can be used to dissambiguate tags on flickr. > This is one such use, low hanging fruit wrt the huge amount of linked > data, and a first timer in terms of IT. > > This was not possible last year! > It is now. > > I guess that is THE question now: What can we do this year that we > couldn't do last year? > ( thanks to the massive amount of available LOD ). > > Best, > A > Aldo, Yep! So we should start building up a simple collection (in a Wiki) of simple and valuable things you can now achieve courtesy of Linked Data :-) "Find" replacing "Search" as the apex of the Web value proposition pyramid for everyday Web Users. Courtesy of Linked Data (warehouse and/or dynamic), every Web information resource is now a "DBMS View" in disguise :-) Kingsley > >> -- >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >> President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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