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Re: RDFa + RDF/XML Considered Harmful? (was RE: Ordnance Survey data as Linked Data)

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:09:00 -0700
Message-ID: <487B6C0C.8070603@openlinksw.com>
To: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
CC: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>

Hugh Glaser wrote:
> On 14/07/2008 10:42, "Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>   
>>     
>>> And if we are talking about an RDF browser (as our pages are, albeit with a
>>> clean URI
>>> that doesn't have the browser URI in it), getting it to include the RDF as
>>> RDFa or whatever
>>> is even stranger; after all
>>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/rdfbrowser2/?uri%5B%5D=http%3A%2F%2Fos.rkbexplorer
>>> .com%2Fdescription%2Fosr7000000000017765
>>> doesn't include the substantive RDF as RDFa, (or have a link rel to
>>> http://os.rkbexplorer.com/data/osr7000000000017765 for that matter) which
>>> would be the
>>> equivalent.
>>>       
>> I can't comment on that example, but ultimately there is no need for a
>> URL for an HTML+RDFa page to be any different to a normal one.
>>
>> (Although I might have missed your point, here....)
>>     
> Not sure.
> I think it relates to the question Tom is asking.
>
> Another way of putting it is that we don't expect Tabulator to include RDFa
> of the RDF we are currently browsing (I think - or maybe we should?).
>   
Hugh,

> So I think it comes down the purpose of the exercise, and there is no one
> size fits all.
>
> If I have some web pages, then being able to simply embed RDF (by whatever
> means), or link to associated RDF resources, is really great. Good for
> convenience, maintenance.
>
> On the other hand, if I am trying to simply publish RDF, for example out of
> a DB, then things are a bit different. To help people who want to build
> agents that use it I might expect them to be able to visualise what I am
> publishing by using Tabulator or other tools to browse it generically. Or
> equivalently I might provide some human readable pages of the RDF to make my
> data more easily accessible.
> Because it is a bespoke browser, then I need to add rel link to the RDF URI.
> And then someone suggests I should add RDFa or something more to these
> pages.
> Before I know it, I have invested a lot of time providing (and maintaining)
> neatly formatted and RDF-friendly web pages to publish my DB, when all I
> wanted to do was join the Semantic Web by publishing my RDF.
>
> In fact, one of the options when Kingsley asked for the rel link was to
> simply remove all the html description pages, getting back to the core of
> what I want to do, which is publish RDF as Linked Data.
>   
Yes, and the little <link rel="alternate" />  addition has extended the 
scope of your Linked Data deployment to the broader Web :-) And if you 
choose, you can broaden even further will some RDFa sprinkled in.  Note, 
this is simply an option.



Kingsley
> Best
> Hugh
>
>
>
>   


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