Re: Consolidating the LOCN voc (was: Re: W3C/OGC WG Launched!)

On 2015-01-09 15:13, Andrea Perego wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Following the email conversation below, I would like to ask you your
> feedback on what you think should be done to consolidate the LOCN voc
> so it can be used as an stable input by the SDW WG. I suggest we
> prioritise the objectives, and group them into those can be achieved
> in the short- and long-term. Considering the SDW WG is going to start
> their activities soon, we may not have much time - but we can raise
> this issue with them.
>
> We can start with the items Frans proposed:
>
> 1. Finish the task of providing explanatory text in multiple languages;
> 2. Finish the proposal for adding CRS and spatial resolution to the vocabulary;
> 3. Solicit experiences from people in the field who are using the
> vocabulary and see if this gives reasons for change or consolidation.
>
> Do you think this is enough, or other activities are needed?
On the notion of prioritizing activities: I suggest giving priority to 
item 1:  multilingualization (Is that the right term? So many 
letters...), for the following reasons:

 1. It is the first task we started, let's show that we can finish tasks
    too!
 2. It increases understanding and accessibility of the vocabulary, so
    it helps with item 3.
 3. Translating all texts involves several people going over the entire
    vocabulary, which is beneficial for general understanding. Or,
    quoting from this discussion on LOV
    <https://plus.google.com/114406186864069390644/posts/jYHe22m59XR>:
    "/translating is a process through which the quality of a vocabulary
    can only improve. Looking at a vocabulary through the eyes of other
    languages and identifying the difficulties of translation helps to
    better outline the initial concepts and if necessary refine or
    revise them/"
 4. Translating text does not make my brain hurt as much as trying to
    really understand the QUDT ontologies (part of item 2).

Anyway, I have now planned to work on Dutch translations next week.

Regards,
Frans


>
> Meanwhile, I'll take care of doing a bit of housekeeping in the
> current version of the LOCN voc.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Andrea
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Andrea Perego
> <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu> wrote:
>> Very good news indeed!
>>
>> I do agree with Frans that it would be important to consolidate the
>> LOCN voc, so that it can be used as an input to the SDW WG.
>>
>> I'm going to open a separate thread on this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Frans Knibbe | Geodan
>> <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl> wrote:
>>> Hello Phil,
>>>
>>> Excellent news! A lot has been going on in getting spatial data to work on
>>> the web, but that work is quite fragmented. I hope the new workgroup will
>>> serve as a focal point for many interrelated efforts. Thank you for your
>>> contributions in making this happen! I guess it wasn't the easiest of tasks.
>>>
>>> And I am sure the LOCN vocabulary can play an important role, providing
>>> low-threshold semantics for location data. All the more reason to take the
>>> job of maintaining the vocabulary seriously.
>>>
>>> Some of the things that come to mind as things we can give some extra
>>> attention to this year:
>>>
>>> Finish the task of providing explanatory text in multiple languages;
>>> Finish the proposal for adding CRS and spatial resolution to the vocabulary;
>>> Solicit experiences from people in the field who are using the vocabulary
>>> and see if this gives reasons for change or consolidation.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Frans
>>>
>>> On 2015-01-06 17:28, Phil Archer wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> As you may have seen an hour or so ago, the much talked about collaboration
>>> between W3C and OGC is under way!
>>>
>>> The two standards bodies issued a joint press release today and, if you're
>>> eligible, obviously we'd be delighted if you were to join the working group.
>>>
>>> Relevant Links:
>>>
>>> The press release
>>> http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/4287
>>>
>>> The Working Group
>>> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/
>>>
>>> OGC have analogous pages too of course.
>>>
>>> Something of particular relevance to the LOCADD CG is that the charter for
>>> this new WG is sufficiently flexible that it could potentially provide a
>>> vehicle for more formal standardisation of the LOCN vocab.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
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