- From: Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:50:33 -0400
- To: public-lld@w3.org
Hi Jeff, First, let me just say I'm a big fan of the simplifications that you and Thom are proposing ... they are clearly a big improvement. But I am wondering about the foaf:focus pattern that you are promoting. I know I've said this before privately in IRC to various people, but it's probably worth asking aloud here. Is it really necessary to use URIs to distinguish between the thing itself, and the concept of the thing? If we do, how would we like to see these resources used in RDF descriptions? For example, if loc.gov were to follow your advice [1] and assert that: <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#concept> a skos:Concept ; skos:prefLabel "Tillett, Barbara B." ; foaf:focus <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#thing> . <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#thing> a foaf:Person . Would you want to see an assertion that Barbara Tillett wrote "Bibliographic relationships : toward a conceptual structure of bibliographic information used in cataloging" (assuming the book URI was legit) done like this: <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/17832769#book> dcterms:creator <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#thing> . And an assertion that the article "An Interview with Barbara B. Tillett" is about Barbara Tillett would be: <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/440932158#article> dcterms:subject <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#concept> . I think lesser minds (at least mine) often have difficulty knowing when to use a URI for the Information Resource (aka Document) in their descriptions as opposed to a URI for the Non-Information Resource (aka Real World Thing). I think further distinguishing between the Concept of the Thing and the Real World Thing (both as Real World Things?) actually compounds the problem. Personally, I would prefer to see loc.gov only mint one identifier for Barbara Tillett: <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#i> a foaf:Person ; foaf:name "Tillett, Barbara B." . And let people use that identifier in their descriptions: <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/17832769#book> dcterms:creator <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#i> . <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/440932158#article> dcterms:subject <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#i> . I'm generally worried about this tendency of proliferating URIs, in the absence of guidance on how the URIs are to be used. I also think that the motivations for minting separate resources can often be appeased by refined notions of how the resource URIs are to be used in descriptions [2]. //Ed [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/code4lib@listserv.nd.edu/msg10116.html [2] http://dfdf.inesc-id.pt/tr/web-arch On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote: > Thom Hickey posted a blog entry about our plans to streamline the VIAF RDF. > > > > http://outgoing.typepad.com/outgoing/2011/04/changes-to-viafs-rdf.html > > > > I can elaborate on the listserv if anyone wants to discuss the changes. > > > > Jeff > > > > --- > > Jeffrey A. Young > Software Architect > OCLC Research, Mail Code 410 > OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. > 6565 Kilgour Place > Dublin, OH 43017-3395 > www.oclc.org > > Voice: 614-764-4342 > Voice: 800-848-5878, ext. 4342 > Fax: 614-718-7477 > Email: jyoung@oclc.org > >
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