- From: <gordon@gordondunsire.com>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:23:07 +0100 (BST)
- To: Simon Spero <sesuncedu@gmail.com>
- Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, public-lld@w3.org, "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org>, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
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Simon and others: Ah, I'd forgotten about subjects ... Jesus Christ doesn't need birth or death dates in an authority context, unless there is another person/persona with the same name of interest bibliographically; the dates are added to create distinguishable labels (headings). If that was required, I guess both dates would need question-marks to indicate uncertainty (O?-32?) - perhaps a (less frivolous) cataloguer can correct me. FRAD has an "is member of" relationship between a Person and a Corporate Body. But I don't think it's appropriate for the Nicholas Bourbaki scenario ... Cheers Gordon On 13 April 2011 at 11:59 Simon Spero <sesuncedu@gmail.com> wrote: > I would take intention (t) in the technical sense of being about [the entity > being referred to by the bibliographer]. That also covers the use of names as > subjects. > In fact, if the association had been written about, there might be an > authority entry for them. Most of the VIAF files have name entries for "Jesus > Christ", despite his lack of publications (the entries lack birth and death > dates too). > Another good example is "Grant Naylor", who are the authors of Red Dwarf, who > have a personal name record, and who also have individual personal name > records. > From an ontological point of view, there are other kinds of things that we > need to consider; organizations, which have an entity separate from the > individuals who compose it vs. groups, whose identity is defined solely by > their membership. I believe that foaf handles this already? > I don't have FRSAD and FRAD in front of me; I don't think FRSAD makes a > difference here though. > Simon > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2011 6:27 AM, "gordon@gordondunsire.com > [mailto:gordon@gordondunsire.com] " <gordon@gordondunsire.com > [mailto:gordon@gordondunsire.com] > wrote:
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