- From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:50:44 -0400
- To: "Ed Summers" <ehs@pobox.com>, <public-lld@w3.org>
Ed, The problem is that authority data makes a distinction between established and variant headings that should be preserved somehow in authority Linked Data. If we assume skos:prefLabel/skos:altLabel are the best solution for this, then we need to contend with the SKOS S14 integrity condition: <http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/#S14> SKOS tries to preserve S14 integrity for pure skos:Concepts (e.g. LCSH) by discouraging owl:sameAs and using skos:exactMatch instead: "owl:sameAs, owl:equivalentClass or owl:equivalentProperty would typically be inappropriate for linking SKOS concepts in different concept schemes, because the formal consequences that follow could be undesirable." <http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/#L4858> Even though there is no rdfs:domain set on skos:prefLabel and they COULD be assigned as properties of people, it's not practical to discourage owl:sameAs for those types of entities. This means that all the skos:prefLabels get thrown into an owl:sameAs pile and S14 could be inadvertently violated. The foaf:focus patterns solves this. In other words, the skos:Concept/foaf:focus pattern is being used in this case to control *headings*, not because the #concept has other roles to play such as in dcterms:subject. For those cases, use the #thing URI instead. I admit this use of skos:Concept/foaf:focus/owl:Thing to control headings for non-conceptual things is confusing, but as a design pattern is it very nice. Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: public-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lld-request@w3.org] On > Behalf Of Ed Summers > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:51 AM > To: public-lld@w3.org > Subject: Re: Planned changes to the VIAF RDF > > Hi Jeff, > > First, let me just say I'm a big fan of the simplifications that you > and Thom are proposing ... they are clearly a big improvement. But I > am wondering about the foaf:focus pattern that you are promoting. > > I know I've said this before privately in IRC to various people, but > it's probably worth asking aloud here. Is it really necessary to use > URIs to distinguish between the thing itself, and the concept of the > thing? If we do, how would we like to see these resources used in RDF > descriptions? > > For example, if loc.gov were to follow your advice [1] and assert that: > > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#concept> a skos:Concept ; > skos:prefLabel "Tillett, Barbara B." ; > foaf:focus <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#thing> . > > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#thing> a foaf:Person . > > Would you want to see an assertion that Barbara Tillett wrote > "Bibliographic relationships : toward a conceptual structure of > bibliographic information used in cataloging" (assuming the book URI > was legit) done like this: > > <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/17832769#book> dcterms:creator > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#thing> . > > And an assertion that the article "An Interview with Barbara B. > Tillett" is about Barbara Tillett would be: > > <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/440932158#article> dcterms:subject > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#concept> . > > I think lesser minds (at least mine) often have difficulty knowing > when to use a URI for the Information Resource (aka Document) in their > descriptions as opposed to a URI for the Non-Information Resource (aka > Real World Thing). I think further distinguishing between the Concept > of the Thing and the Real World Thing (both as Real World Things?) > actually compounds the problem. > > Personally, I would prefer to see loc.gov only mint one identifier for > Barbara Tillett: > > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#i> a foaf:Person ; > foaf:name "Tillett, Barbara B." . > > And let people use that identifier in their descriptions: > > <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/17832769#book> dcterms:creator > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#i> . > > <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/440932158#article> dcterms:subject > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/n88102106#i> . > > I'm generally worried about this tendency of proliferating URIs, in > the absence of guidance on how the URIs are to be used. I also think > that the motivations for minting separate resources can often be > appeased by refined notions of how the resource URIs are to be used in > descriptions [2]. > > //Ed > > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/code4lib@listserv.nd.edu/msg10116.html > [2] http://dfdf.inesc-id.pt/tr/web-arch > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> > wrote: > > Thom Hickey posted a blog entry about our plans to streamline the > VIAF RDF. > > > > > > > > http://outgoing.typepad.com/outgoing/2011/04/changes-to-viafs- > rdf.html > > > > > > > > I can elaborate on the listserv if anyone wants to discuss the > changes. > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Jeffrey A. Young > > Software Architect > > OCLC Research, Mail Code 410 > > OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. > > 6565 Kilgour Place > > Dublin, OH 43017-3395 > > www.oclc.org > > > > Voice: 614-764-4342 > > Voice: 800-848-5878, ext. 4342 > > Fax: 614-718-7477 > > Email: jyoung@oclc.org > > > > >
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