- From: Matola, Tod <matolat@oclc.org>
- Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:09:36 -0400
- To: public-lld <public-lld@w3.org>
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Hi everyone,
The minutes of our call today are at
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/16-lld-minutes.html
A text version follows.
Thanks again for your patience and help in correcting any of my gaps or
oversights.
Cheers Tod
--
³OS/360 is like a cow.² Itıs not the most beautiful or efficient, and many
people think they can design a better one. But if you put hay and water in
one end, you get fertilizer from the other end and milk from the middle. You
can use it effectively if you recognize its limitations and remember which
end is which. -- Harlan Mills
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
LLD XG
16 Sep 2010
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Sep/0069.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/16-lld-irc
Attendees
Present
Emmanuelle Bermes (emma), Thomas Baker (TomB), Felix Sasaki
(Felix), Lars G. Svensson (LarsG), Jeff Young (jeff), Antoine
Isaac (antoine), Gordon Dunsire (GordonD), Tod Matola
(matolat), Karen Coyle (kcoyle), Marcia Zeng (marcia), Ross
Singer (rsinger), Alexander Haffner (AlexanderH), Oreste
Signore (Oreste), Guenther Neher (gneher), Kim Viljanen
(digikim), Kai Eckert (Kai?), Monica Duke (monica), Ed
Summers (edsu), Joachim Neubert (jneubert), Jon Phipps
(jphipps), Michael Panzer (michaelp)
Regrets
Ray, Annette, Andras, Bernard, Jodi
Chair
Emmanuelle
Scribe
Tod
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Administrative
2. [6]Face-to-face meetings
3. [7]Use cases and case studies - update
* [8]Summary of Action Items
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<emma> Previous minutes:
[9]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minut
es.html
[9]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minutes.html
<emma> Resgrets+: Andras, Bernard, Jodi
<emma> Scribe: Tod
<emma> scribenick: matolat
Administrative
RESOLVED:To accept minutes of previous telecon:
[10]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minu
tes.html
[10]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minutes.html
Face-to-face meetings
kcoyle: need a set of goals for F2F
emma: Not yet, want to discuss Use cases
... discuss Topic list at F2F, don't have the goals for F2F
<Zakim> TomB, you wanted to suggest that, as a goal, we clarify what
deliverables we want to achieve by end of charter
kcoyle: Very broad topics, we need to help guide our thoughts to
make good use of the time
TomB: chartered 1 year, number of wiki pages, artifacts, but we need
to understand what we can deliver in our timeframe
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on use cases requirements
topics
TomB: may want to decide what deliverables we can work on and what
should be next steps
Antoine: Use case call will be closed,
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on organization
Emma: main goal F2F is to define the deliverables from the use cases
Antoine: question on mic and speaker, can supply them?
<kcoyle> for computer?
<antoine> karen, yes
<jeff_> i can ask if we have it
<antoine> +1
Use cases and case studies - update
emma: use case call sent
<emma>
[11]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Cases_Gathering
[11] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Cases_Gathering
<antoine> typically people send answers quite late :-)
antoine: number of lists that added and not sure if mail has been
sent
marcia: has sent to her lists added
emma: Discussion of two related use cases (Joachim and Ed)
[$1\47]
[12]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Publishing_20
th_Century_Press_Archives
[12]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Publishing_20th_Century_P
ress_Archives
[$1\47] [13]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_NDNP
[13] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_NDNP
<emma> [14]http://zbw.eu/beta/p20/about
[14] http://zbw.eu/beta/p20/about
<antonie> what the data like at the project start and how was it
enriched
<edsu> antoine: good question :)
Joachim: link to German authority file LLD impl
... difficult because don't have authority file idenitifers
... few American newspaper articles available, hope that other
German databases to link to
I don't know if I caught all of that Joachim (please add comments?)
Joachim: metadata is mostly attached to folders
<edsu>
[15]https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dv89m3d_466c3nxbc53
[15] https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dv89m3d_466c3nxbc53
Edsu: Use case NDNP
... part of 20 year project digitize american newspaper. Start to
move microfilm to be digitized
... 250Gb harddrives, of batches (xml. tiff. OCR files)
... LD is webapp that sit on top of data, search OCR and browse
... data is being cut off in 1922 copyright issues avoided
... each batch gets a name, browse from batch to issues
... problem how to get data to researchers
... have relational db, that could be dumped, this where LD approach
helps
... mint cool URLs, get rdf that describe the data
... not hierarchical, graph view makes linking more natural.
... link to dbpedia get geo coordinates to map newspaper coverage
... links to flikr to allow folks to interact with data more
<antoine> Ed: really great!
Edsu: FOAF to describe the agent that produced the data, some
additional project define vocab
... example use of data to explore Chicago news titles relate
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to ask about use of ORE in two cases
Edsu: how to make annotations more readable. would be nice to
capture them and add to the data set (e.g., from flikr)
antoine: have that 2 cases data been compared?
Edsu: look some at ORE data, but the vocab is small
... could be too generic
Joachim: want to apply to search results that are not covered by
other vocab.
<edsu> here's an example of some rdf for a page w/ some oai-ore
[16]http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1880-02-03/ed-
1/seq-1.rdf
[16]
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1880-02-03/ed-1/seq-1.rdf
Joachim: would allow to describe the boundaries of aggregation
... describe the links of aggregation
Edsu: nice about ORE, allows people to extract not just the
metadata, but the things being described
<edsu> jneubert: you first :-)
Antoin: did you feel to need to choose the original data that you
got?
Antoin: will take question offline
ACTION: Everyone to elaborate on topics in the wiki [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/08-lld-minu
tes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]
[17]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html#act
ion08
<edsu> cheers :-)
<digikim> thanks!
<emma> [adjourned]
<antoine> ACTION: Potential attendees in Pittsburgh to use wiki page
to indicate whether they are attending or not at
[18]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/26-lld-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F
[19] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/26-lld-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Action Items
[PENDING] ACTION: Everyone to elaborate on topics in the wiki
[recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/08-lld-minu
tes.html#action08]
[20]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html#act
ion08
[DONE] ACTION: Potential attendees in Pittsburgh to use wiki page to
indicate whether they are attending or not at
[21]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/26-lld-minutes.html#action01]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F
[22] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/26-lld-minutes.html#action01
[End of minutes]
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