- From: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:13:09 -0500
- To: Kjetil Kjernsmo <kjetil@kjernsmo.net>
- Cc: public-ldp@w3.org, Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu>, Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 19:57 +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > On Wednesday 14. November 2012 13.58.33 David Booth wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 10:28 -0800, Erik Wilde wrote: > > > [ . . . ] RDF isn't > > > RESTful it itself because it's not a hypermedia format. > > > > Huh? I'm baffled by that comment. Why do you say RDF is not a > > hypermedia format? For one thing, RDF is composed almost entirely of > > URIs, i.e., links. How much more link-ful can you get? > > Erik is partially right: By itself, RDF is a hypermedia format only on a > very, very superficial level. > > I'd like to encourage everybody to do the exercise to go Mike Amundsen's > hypermedia classification: http://amundsen.com/hypermedia/hfactor/ > You will quickly realize that RDF, out of the box, is a hypermedia only on > the LO level. Ah-ha! Now I see what Erik meant. Just to be clear on terminology, AFAIK Amundsen's requirements go *far* beyond the conventional definition of "hypermedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermedia as Amundsen's requirements are all about supporting hypermedia *applications*, which of course is what we want to do with LDP and Hypermedia As The Engine Of Application State (HATEOAS) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HATEOAS . Mike's H Factor summary is excellent! > > However, as I show in my ESWC LAPIS2012 presentation, see > http://folk.uio.no/kjekje/2012/lapis2012.xhtml > RDF can be made to be a very powerful hypermedia type by fairly trivial > means. In fact, it can easily meet all but one of Amundsen's criteria (I > just realised that LE can be met using data URIs). > > I've been talking with people F2F on ISWC about this, and I hope I have > convinced some that this is the direction one should be going. And I really > don't think this is out of the scope of the charter, to the contrary, if > this is done right, it is what the charter really means. :-) Very nice! It looks like an excellent direction to me! -- David Booth, Ph.D. http://dbooth.org/ Opinions expressed herein are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of his employer.
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