Re: Editors' proposal for membership predicate names

hello Kingsley, 

Thanks for your feedback. 
I would like to think about your diagramming suggestions over the weekend. 
But, I have a comment now on your point #2. 

My picture was the DirectContainer case. 
Here, all the boxes are Documents.
So, there is nothing to change. 
(for the IndirectContainer case, we *will* have other shapes in the picture I beleive) 

However ... 

MembershipTriple's link non-informational resources and ContainerTriple's link information resources. But, in a DirectContainer, the Document which is created is the object position of the membershipTriple. Therefore the membershipTriple is linking to an Information resource, which is a contradiction. 

My conclusion is that we shouldn't really have DirectContainers ... 

? 
Roger




On 21 Feb 2014, at 16:31, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

> On 2/21/14 9:45 AM, Roger Menday wrote:
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>> does the attached picture help this discussion ??
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>> Roger
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>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 14:10, Roger Menday wrote:
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> Do you have a URL for the source file? Either way, would you be able to apply the following tweaks:
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> 1. append (to be ultra obvious) the literals "document" to the labeling of each each entity of type: Document
> 2. use something else (rather than a box) to depict entities that aren't of type: Document
> 3. use an oval to depict predicates that associate relation subjects and objects (using a labelled arrow is an inherited inaccuracy that warps RDF in really bad ways).
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> Re #3 it would be:
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> (#subject) --> (#predicate) --> (#object)  (note: oval for reference and rectangle of square for a literal object)
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> Instead of the overused but utterly broken (which undermines the importance and nature of what predicate URIs denote):
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> (#subject) --- predicate --> (#object) .
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> Great idea introducing an illustration, there are many murky issues that will come to the surface as this illustration evolves.  
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> [1] http://bit.ly/1fluti1 -- RDF described and illustrated 
> [2] http://slidesha.re/1jkDBXj -- Relationship Roles .
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> Regards,
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