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Re: paging in editor's draft

From: Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 18:24:36 -0500
Message-ID: <5276DB34.2050309@oracle.com>
To: public-ldp-wg@w3.org
Even if you are looking at a view, the underlying collection can be updated while you are
viewing the view and this has the potential of changing the contents and order of pages.
All the best, Ashok
On 11/1/2013 12:05 PM, Wilde, Erik wrote:
> On 2013-11-01, 03:59 , "Ashok Malhotra" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com> wrote:
>> On 11/1/2013 1:04 AM, Wilde, Erik wrote:
>>> to me, the whole idea that there is some "natural order" to a
>>> collection leads to all kinds of false assumptions. a collection is a
>>> set, so there is no such thing as "inserting in the middle of it".
>> We have the ability to order members of a collection.  See 5..1.3.
>> This makes the collection a sequence.
> does it? you can have views ordered in a variety of ways (and could add a
> a layer on top of LDP asking an LDP server to provide differently sorted
> views of the same collection), but inherently, i would argue, the
> underlying collection still *is* a set. ³inserting new data into a view²
> to me is a weird concept. even with o:value, ordering is not fully
> defined, because ordering depends on more than just values. it depends on
> value types, and sort rules defined on those types. i donıt think we
> should even try to answer those questions, but i think it demonstrates
> that ordering is a server-controlled concept that is not fully exposed,
> and cannot be used for anything other than server-controlled
> representations (such as ordered pages).
> cheers,
> dret.
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