- From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:51:53 +0200
- To: public-ldp-wg@w3.org
- Cc: Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <nmihindu@fi.upm.es>
Let me take Nandana's first bug tracking example and show how one can do
without membershipPredicate.
On 21 May 2013, at 18:30, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <nmihindu@fi.upm.es> wrote
in the email at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013May/0169.html
> ----------------------- Model 1 --------------------------------------
>
> <http://example.org/app/BugTracker> a ldp:Container, bt:BugTracker ;
> ldp:membershipPredicate bt:tracksProduct ;
> bt:tracksProduct <http://example.org/app/BugTracker/ProductA> .
> ------
> <http://example.org/app/BugTracker/ProductA> a ldp:Container, bt:Product;
> ldp:membershipPredicate bt:hasBug ;
> bt:hasBug <http://example.org/app/BugTracker/ProductA/Bug1> .
> ------
> <http://example.org/app/BugTracker/ProductA/Bug1> a bt:Bug;
> dcterms:title "Product A crashes when shutting down.";
> dcterms:creator <http://example.org/users/johndoe>;
> dcterms:created "2013-05-05T10:00"^^xsd:dateTime
> bt:isInState "New" .
So a few remarks on this modelling, which I think is worth opening a new issue
for by itself on. Your model is confusing a thing - a bug - and an information resource
that describes it.
This means that it is not going to be possible later to identify two bugs with owl:sameAs
without coming to the conclusion that it was created at different times, by potentially two
people. It also means you cannot distinguish copyrights on the information content -
a creative commons licence - from the bug itself, which is not something that can be
licenced.
So this is a first reason why this type of modelling is not standard, and not a good
idea. And another reason why the ldp:membershipPredicate is going to walks straight
into the -1 of a lot of people at the w3c if it is kept like that.
So let me here try to bypass this problem and see how far I can go.
Let us say </bugs/> is our container with the following content:
~~~~~~~~~~
<> a ldp:Container, bt:BugReport;
val:primaryTopicRestriction [ onProperty bt:product
hasValue <http://example.org/app/BugTracker/ProductA> ];
bt:member <bug1>, <bug2>, <bug3> .
# note that we add metadata on the information resource
# note also that the creator is the creator of the bug report, not the creator of the bug
<bug1> dcterms:title "Product A crashes crashes when starting up.";
dcterms:creator <http://example.org/jack#me>;
dcterms:created "2013-04-05T10:00"^^xsd:dateTime .
<bug2> dcterms:title "Product A crashes when shutting down.";
dcterms:creator <http://example.org/users/johndoe#i>;
dcterms:created "2013-05-05T10:00"^^xsd:dateTime .
<bug3> dcterms:title "My pictures looks funny when I click the red buton";
dcterms:creator <http://facebook.com/users/grannySmith#>;
dcterms:created "2013-05-06T11:23"^^xsd:dateTime .
~~~~~~~~~~~
So we assume we have some validation description that will be
arrived at by the rdf-validation group:
https://www.w3.org/2012/12/rdf-val/Overview.php
and that allows us to restrict the primary topics of posted content to
be about ProductA .
From this a client would know that all members of the container are
bug reports, and that the bugs must be about about a specific topic.
We publish metadata about <bug1> and <bug2> which are bug REPORTS, not
bugs. The Bug reports may themselves be buggy, for example.
These bug reports would then say something simple like
<bug1> log:semantics {
<bug1> dcterms:title "Product A crashes crashes when starting up.";
dcterms:creator <http://example.org/jack#me>;
dcterms:created "2013-04-05T10:00"^^xsd:dateTime ;
foaf:primaryTopic <bug1#y>
<bug1#y> a bt:Bug;
bt:product <http://example.org/app/BugTracker/ProductA> ;
bt:isInState "closed";
bt:cause <http://other.project.org/bugs/bug100#y> .
}
And now the bug report <bug2>
<bug2> log:semantics {
<bug2> dcterms:title "Product A crashes when shutting down.";
dcterms:creator <http://example.org/users/johndoe#i>;
dcterms:created "2013-05-05T10:00"^^xsd:dateTime .
foaf:primaryTopic <bug2#y>
<bug2#y> a bt:Bug;
bt:product <http://example.org/app/BugTracker/ProductA> ;
bt:isInState "open";
owl:sameAs <bug3#y> .
}
Here an engineer determined that <bug2#y> was the same as <bug3#y> though
he has two different bug reports.
So now we have a case where it is clear how
1. a client knows what to POST
2. the LDPC never uses anything else other than ldp:member
3. we correctly make the distinction between information resource and thing talked about
4. and we don't need membershipPredicate
It is true we need a vocabulary for restrictions on contents, but that we needed
anyway and that is something that clearly can be done by a group such as the
RDF-Validation group https://www.w3.org/2012/12/rdf-val/Overview.php
Hope this helps,
Henry
Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/
Received on Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:52:23 UTC