- From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:41:18 +0200
- To: Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: "public-ldp-wg@w3.org" <public-ldp-wg@w3.org>
On 11 Jun 2013, at 17:20, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Hi Henry,
>
> Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote on 06/10/2013 11:57:22 PM:
>
> > >> I see this is as a simple marker that doesn't require much anything else
> > >> than be defined in the spec as a way the server can advertise it is
> > >> supporting LDP.
> >
> > I think the problems in our discussions comes from this way of
> > phrasing things,
> > as it confuses two seperate topics:
> >
> > a) how do you know a resource is an LDPC/LDPR ? ("that it is
> > supporting LDP")
> > b) how do you constrain what types of resources can be member of an LDPC .
> >
> > The profile is doing the second thing (b)
> > ...
>
> I don't understand why you pick that particular constraint and decide that this is what the LDP profile would be about.
>
> This is especially confusing because there is no such constraint that I know of in LDP today. Any type of resource can be a member of an LDPC.
>
> And this is not at all the what I'm hearing people say about why they want something to identify LDP resources beyond RDF.
Do you mean constraint (b) ?
I explained that in the paragraph that followed right after the piece of my e-mail that you cut.
I cite RFC6906 entitled "The 'profile' Link Relation Type" which is written by a certain
E. Wilde of EMC Corporation, which our Erik Wilde linked to in the mail I was responding to
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6906
The end of the introduction has the following text
[[
As one example, consider the case of podcasts, where a specific kind
of feed uses additional fields for media-related metadata. Using a
'profile' link, it would be easily possible for clients to understand
that a specific feed is supposed to be a podcast feed, and that it
may contain entries using podcast-specific fields. This may allow a
client to behave differently when handling such a feed (such as
rendering a podcast-specific UI), even when the current set of
entries in the feed may not contain any podcast entries. (
Section 5.3 gives more details for this example.)
]]
this passage was also cited by Kingsley Idehen in the thread
"Discovery/Affordances (Issue-32/Issue-57)"
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Jun/0085.html
If you read this carefully it is clear that the aim of this profile
is to constrain the type of elements that appear in a podcast feed.
I have often heard Erik Wilde ask for such constraints. They can
be useful in that you may want a LDPC to be a place people POST
specific types of RDF graphs, eg:
- card addition events
- shopping orders
- bug report additions
- etc....
Furthermore it is not the first time that Erik Wilde makes this
request. In Issue-48 I point to a few places where he voiced
this request. I happen to think it is not a bad idea.
http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/48
Does this help, or have I missed something?
Henry
Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/
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