- From: Reza B'Far (Oracle) <reza.bfar@oracle.com>
- Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:15:44 -0700
- To: public-ldp-wg@w3.org
Idehen - [Idehen] Is it accurate is I summarize all of this as boiling down to decoupling RDF from Linked Data? [Reza] I think this is ABSOLUTELY key to me. I confirm that, from my perspective, this decoupling is crucial to a standardization effort. Doesn't mean that RDF is excluded or even that it is not a focus, rather that it is treated separately in the standardization process. I mentioned this on the call this morning: Prov has done a good job of this decoupling Prov-DM from Prov-O (OWL). To this end, and your other comments, I would propose that we arrive at a taxonomy that has, at least, the following - LDP-DM - Some Data Model that represents the domain we're trying to address independent of any other sem-web standards (RDF, SPARQL, etc.) LDP-RDF - Linkage of RDF to LDP-DM [Others] This is the model that Prov went with and I'm not saying anything original (essentially copying from that WG). But, I think it was the right approach: decouple your data/domain model that represent the necessary abstractions from the various other lower level pieces and apparatus. Best. On 8/6/12 8:57 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 8/6/12 11:13 AM, Erik.Wilde@emc.com wrote: >> hello ashok. >> >> On 2012-08-06 17:03 , "Ashok Malhotra" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com> >> wrote: >>> I am involved in a couple of standards groups where the data is in >>> XML or >>> JSON >>> and accessed using REST. These folks are wrestling with he same >>> kinds of >>> issues >>> that motivated us to the start the LDP WG: collections, large >>> amounts of >>> data, >>> concurrent updates, etc. >> yup, that's exactly where we are, and what we hoped to see addressed by >> the working group. however, when i raised the issue that with the >> move to >> REST it would make sense to remove the exclusive focus on RDF, the >> majority of the WG was of the opinion that we should only focus on RDF. >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Jul/0029.html >> is one >> of the threads in the archive where i was proposing to include more of >> REST. since i have tried already, and should probably tread lightly >> because of my status as a co-chair, i decided to not try anymore and >> assume that the WG is focusing on RDF. you're of course free to discuss >> the issue again, but it seems that so far the majority of the WG is >> happy >> with the RDF focus. >> >> cheers, >> >> dret. >> >> >> > > Is it accurate is I summarize all of this as boiling down to > decoupling RDF from Linked Data? > > As I stated in an earlier post, Linked Data is about: > > 1. URIs as denotation (naming) mechanism for entities (web, > real-world, or abstract) > 2. URIs/URLs as identifiers for web resources that describe URI referents > 3. Structured Data representation constrained by the EAV/CR or RDF > data models + URI behavior described above. > > > There's an artificial barrier created between Linked Data and REST > whenever one conflates it with RDF -- which isn't about REST. > > To conclude, shouldn't this group address the decoupling of Linked and > RDF i.e., make the coupling loose? There's everything to gain and > nothing to lose. In a sense, the first tangible deliverable from this > group could be an official decoupling of Linked Data and RDF. Such a > decoupling will ultimately compliment work that will emerge from the > current RDF workgroup etc.. > >
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