ixml Agenda 2024-08-20

When: Tuesday 20 August 2024 14:00 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20240820T1400


Where: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq 


Meeting: Invisible Markup Bi-weekly Teleconference
Chair: Steven
Scribe: Norm
Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2024/08/06-ixml-minutes

IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at [1].  Details of W3C IRC
use are at [2] and [3], hints for using RRSAgent at [4] and [5].

[1] irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[3] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC
[4] https://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
[5] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html

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Topic: Review of agenda
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     0 Identify minute-taker
     1 Review of action items
     2 Status reports
     3 Review, discussion, resolution of issues
     4 Other topics
     5 Next meeting (and next scribe)
     6 Any other business

Topic: Michael
https://balisage.net/RememberingMSM.html


Topic: September
[No link; regrets Steven]
         
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Topic: Previous Actions
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ACTION 2023-01-10-f: Norm and Michael to do a bit of revision to
                      improve the draft documentation of the XML
                      vocabulary (see #137) for further discussion.

ACTION 2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139
                      (new grammars, new README).

ACTION 2024-03-19-a: Steven to contact W3C to get the report links
                      fixed on the report and ixml group pages:
                      https://www.w3.org/community/reports/
                      https://www.w3.org/community/ixml/
                      Both pages have links which return a 404.

                      [Still broken 11 June 2024 -- secure connection
                      fails, see [1], while trying to dereference
                      https://ixml.nwalsh.com/ixml/CG-FINAL-ixml-20230710/]

[1] 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/secure-connection-failed-firefox-did-not-connect?as=u&utm_source=inproduct


ACTION 2024-04-16-a: MSM to revise the EBNF document in light of
                      Steven's review.

ACTION 2024-04-30-b: Bethan to open an issue on whether to adopt a
                      scheme to distinguish 'major' from 'minor'
                      versions in version numbers.

ACTION 2024-06-11-a: Steven to correct the spec grammer per issue #250

ACTION 2024-06-11-b: Norm to make sure there are tests for the new grammar 
features

ACTION 2024-06-11-c: Norm to write linebreak tests per issue #246

ACTION 2024-06-11-d: MSM to pull request for links to the grammars per 
issue #252

   Proposal: PR 260, https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/260

ACTION 2024-06-11-e: Norm to update the spec style to make it more W3C-like


ACTION 2024-08-06-a : Steven to add insertions to the serialisation of 
attributes

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Topic:  Status reports
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Topic:  Status of implementations

Topic:  Status of testing and test suites

See also test-suite related issues below.

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Topic:  broken links on CG and CG Reports pages
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CG Reports are linked from the Reports page and from the page for the
responsible CG:

   https://www.w3.org/community/reports/
   https://www.w3.org/community/ixml/

Currently, both of those link use not the URL of the report but to a
URL which returns an TLS error:

   https://ixml.nwalsh.com/ixml/CG-FINAL-ixml-20230710/

See also action 2024-03-19-a and 2024-04-16-c.

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Topic:  Review and resolution of bug reports and technical issues
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NB The list below shows only issues open as of the time this agenda
was last revised.  It does not show any issues raised only in email:
if you wish an issue to be discussed, please open an issue in Github.

For all open issues, see https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/

* Issues against the 1.0 spec

None.

* Bug reports against the current spec

Topic: Issue #263 Serialization of attributes
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/263

* Issues relating to test suite

N.B. Issue #246 (linebreak tests needed) requires a volunteer but
needs no discussion.

* v.Next issues

Topic: Issue #254 Extend the prolog to support arbitrary metadata
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/254

Topic: Issue #253 Update the build process to add explicit metadata to the 
grammars
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/253

   Proposal: PR #262, https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/262

Topic: Issue #250 49 A subtraction operator
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/250

Topic: Issue #235 Problems with prolog (syntax and semantics)
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/235

Topic: Issue #234 Alternative syntaxes for prolog
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/234

* Other v.Next issues

Topic:  Issue #252 Er, where are the authoritative versions of ixml.ixml 
and ixml.xml?   
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/252

         See also #253.

Topic:  Issue #253 Update the build process so that all generated grammar 
files explicit "build" metadata
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/253

         Partial resolution of #252.

Topic:  Issue #249 A subtraction operator
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/249

Topic:  Issue #239  Support simple data types?
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/239

Topic:  Issue #75 Combining grammars (for v.Next)
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/75

         https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0002.html

         We need to discuss the use-cases document proposed by Norm.
         MSM proposes the functionality of RNG as a minimum.

Topic:  Issue #168 Dynamic naming / name from the input data 
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/168

         See discussion document from John:
         https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023May/0005.html



* Issues relating to Web site and ancillary documents

Topic:  Issue #248 Schemas for vxml grammars need updating
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/248

Topic:  Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/139

         See proposal at
         https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0004.html

         Revised proposal from Steven:
         https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jun/0009.html

         And now:
         https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2024Feb/0003.html


Topic:  Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars
         https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/137

         https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0003.html
         https://ixml.nwalsh.com/xmlguide/

         Awaiting progress on action 2023-01-10-f (Norm and Michael).



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Topic: Other topics
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Topic:  Plans for further work

Topic: Website
   
      https://invisiblexml.org <https://invisiblexml.org/> 
      https://github.com/invisibleXML/
      

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Topic: Next meeting
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Normal date and time for ixml meetings is every other Tuesday at 3 pm
British Time, 4 pm Central European Time (14:00 UTC during summer
time, 15:00 UTC during winter time).  For the foreseeable future, we
meet in weeks whose numbers in the ISO week numbering are even.

On the usual schedule, the next meeting would be Tuesday 14 May, at
14:00 UTC for one hour.

For the record: the current state of the minute-taking rota is:

   Norm Tovey-Walsh   2023-04-16
   John Lumley        2024-03-19
   Steven Pemberton   2024-08-06


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Topic: Any other business 
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                                         Be seeing you,
                                           norm

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Norm Tovey-Walsh
Saxonica

Received on Tuesday, 20 August 2024 13:24:43 UTC