- From: Akash Khosla <akhosla@berkeley.edu>
- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 02:48:04 -0800
- Cc: Daniel Carroll <daniel.carroll@secureblockchains.com>, Bhaves Shah <bhaves.shah@jabjabgroup.com>, Yuriy Dybskiy <yuriy@dybskiy.com>, ledger@ietf.org, public-interledger@w3.org
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Gotcha, in that case I'll move the Hyperledger side to bcc to avoid confusion - this is focused on the Interledger working group which regularly uses Gitter. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 2:30 AM Silona Bonewald < sbonewald@linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Silona the VP of community architecture for Hyperledger here > > I'm afraid this is something we cannot change easily. All of the projects > at Hyperledger need to be on the same chat system. > > Http://Chat.hyperledger.org which is rocket chat. > > Please follow Ry"s directions earlier about creating an LF ID. A Linux > foundation ID. Hyperledger also is a project under the Linux foundation > and we also adhere to some of those standards as well. > > As a community and especially quilt bring an interopability tool has to > work within the larger community of Hyperledger. We have a unified > standard. You can read up on the Hyperledger project process more on the > wiki.hyperledger.org > > Thank you, > Silona > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 23:25 Daniel Carroll < > daniel.carroll@secureblockchains.com wrote: > >> It would likely be good to have a couple of different platforms. >> >> I like Discord and Telegram for community chat and general sharing of >> information. But both are limited in how you can breakdown information into >> categories and maintain a logical history. >> >> I like Slack and Trello for grouping chunks of data within a team >> attempting productivity. >> >> Dan >> >> On Feb 3, 2019, at 9:47 PM, Bhaves Shah <bhaves.shah@jabjabgroup.com> >> wrote: >> >> I assume when looking at the community at large we want a solution that >> is seccure in nature and also has the feature set to grow as the community >> grows, although cost could be an issue later.. >> >> You may want to check - https://flock.com/ >> >> Cheers! >> Bhaves >> >> On 4 Feb 2019, at 10:36 AM, Yuriy Dybskiy <yuriy@dybskiy.com> wrote: >> >> Akash, really great proposal! >> I've been using Discord more and more lately so I'm definitely +1 on that >> one. >> Rocket.chat is built with Meteor and I used to be a huge fan of it so >> I'm +1 on that option as well :) >> >> Discord might be the easiest to setup and more polished so slight >> preference there, but long term maybe Rocket.chat is a better option. >> Curious what others think. >> >> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 7:02 PM AKASH KHOSLA <akhosla@berkeley.edu> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering if there would be any interest in moving from Gitter to >>> another platform. The main reason I bring this up is because Gitter could >>> be out of the way for a lot of us and the application doesn't encourage >>> dedicated usage. Email lists are a bit old school and signing up for the >>> Interledger one is out of the way. I think the reason for such a cryptic >>> interface for the w3c style/linux foundation emails list is sybil >>> resistance and anti-spam since there are liberal write permissions to the >>> lists. I think scaling the community requires something better than email >>> and Gitter. Would be great to hear thoughts on this. >>> >>> Couple problems with Gitter: >>> >>> 1. Clunky interface >>> 2. Poor separation of conversations/rooms >>> 3. Bad search function >>> 4. Bad mobile app >>> >>> >>> Some alternatives I think users enjoy using, and are well known in dev >>> communities: >>> >>> *Rocket.chat <https://rocket.chat/>* >>> Pros: >>> >>> 1. Open source chat (basically a friendly IRC replacement) >>> 2. Self hosting is free, cloud options available, easy to deploy >>> with scripts >>> 3. Slack-like interface >>> 4. Good search functionality >>> 5. Threads >>> <https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/pull/11803#issuecomment-455963816> >>> are being implemented >>> 6. Usable mobile applications >>> 7. Actively maintained + marketplace integrations >>> 8. Can deploy at chat.interledger.org (would be happy to help). >>> 9. Easy sign in with GitHub, just like gitter. >>> >>> Cons: >>> >>> 1. Not as well known as discord, slack or gitter from what I can >>> tell, but I expect it to continue to grow in usage down the line and gain >>> even more support than it already has. >>> >>> >>> *Discord* >>> Pros: >>> >>> 1. Commonly used >>> 2. Free to use unlike sack >>> 3. Fast and friendly >>> 4. Solid mobile apps >>> 5. Actively maintained >>> 6. No self hosting or maintenance >>> 7. Supports integrations >>> >>> Cons: >>> >>> 1. May not be free forever >>> 2. Chat logs are owned by Discord >>> 3. More complex interface than Slack/Rocket (some colleagues and I >>> describe it as heavier >>> >>> >>> This list may not be complete in terms of pros and cons so please chime >>> in if you have a personal preference or have something to say about these >>> platforms or others. I've spent some time with both alternatives, you can >>> generally find demos on their corresponding websites to see what you like >>> best. >>> >>> *Akash Khosla* >>> Fourth Year EECS >>> akhosla@berkeley.edu >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Yuriy @html5cat <http://twitter.com/html5cat> Dybskiy >> >> e-mail: yuriy@dybskiy.com >> phone: +1 (650) 434-2004 >> >> Dybskiy.com <http://dybskiy.com> / Twitter <http://twitter.com/html5cat> >> / GitHub <http://github.com/html5cat> / Linkedin >> <http://ca.linkedin.com/in/dybskiy> >> >> _._,_._,_ >> ------------------------------ >> Links: >> >> You receive all messages sent to this group. >> >> View/Reply Online (#85) >> <https://lists.hyperledger.org/g/quilt/message/85> | Reply To Sender >> <?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BHyperledger%20Quilt%5D%20Proposal%3A%20Switching%20from%20Gitter%20to%20something%20else> >> | Reply To Group >> <quilt@lists.hyperledger.org?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BHyperledger%20Quilt%5D%20Proposal%3A%20Switching%20from%20Gitter%20to%20something%20else> >> | Mute This Topic <https://lists.hyperledger.org/mt/29637867/1540173> | New >> Topic <https://lists.hyperledger.org/g/quilt/post> >> >> Your Subscription <https://lists.hyperledger.org/g/quilt/editsub/1540173> >> | Contact Group Owner <quilt+owner@lists.hyperledger.org> | Unsubscribe >> <https://lists.hyperledger.org/g/quilt/unsub> [ >> sbonewald@linuxfoundation.org] >> _._,_._,_ >> >>
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