- From: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 10:32:05 -0400
- To: lwatson@tetralogical.com, Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>, "public-idcg@w3.org" <public-idcg@w3.org>
- Cc: "Reid, Wendy" <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>, Daniel Appelquist <dan@torgo.com>, "Siegman, Tzviya" <tsiegman@wiley.com>
- Message-ID: <ab5bef42-812d-81d2-1f54-69257260d6a1@w3.org>
On 6/6/2020 8:09 AM, Léonie Watson wrote: > Thank you Marisa. Your ideas are really helpful. > > Although the possibility of the W3C making a statement may not be > possible, or at least easy, I believe we are free to make a statement as > the ID CG. I will raise the matter of the W3C making a statement with > the AB, but a statement from this CG would be a start. In terms of statements from W3C, a great deal depends on "what" the statement is. Earlier, I pointed out the restrictions that we have in terms of speaking on public policy issues. I hope, however, that everyone has seen our statement that we made last Thursday reinforcing our values [1]. " <https://twitter.com/w3c> W3C <https://twitter.com/w3c> @w3c <https://twitter.com/w3c> In a time of upheaval, we are proud that our W3C community values include standing against prejudice, racism and discrimination. See our Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct: https://w3.org/Consortium/cepc <https://t.co/uR6NPX2EGR?amp=1>" [1] https://twitter.com/w3c/status/1268558233586880514 > > I have a question for everyone, and if I'm clumsy in the way I ask it, > please be gentle, like many people I'm figuring this out as I go. > > If we, the ID CG, make a statement, should it focus on Black Lives > Matter (BLM) and racial equality because that has momentum right now, > should we include other types of diversity (other forms of racism, > ablism, sexism etc.) because they're important too, or something else? > > Léonie. > > On 05/06/2020 23:26, Marisa DeMeglio wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Great discussion. Really happy to see that everyone wants to make >> positive changes! I am in PDT and would love to participate in a call. >> >> Agree that actions speak loudest. I think making a statement, like Wendy >> said to preface those actions, is important. I would hope it inspires >> member orgs (like my own!) to speak up and take action themselves. >> >> If I were writing our statement, it would include: >> >> - Stating unequivocally that Black Lives Matter and silence is complicity >> - Say that we recognize racism as a problem in our domain (tech/the >> web/standards; pick one or more!) >> - Commit to changes >> - Ask our members to commit to change >> - Include links to resources >> >> Imagine if we *and* the member orgs took steps - that would be a good start! >> >> I would especially love to see anti-racism work live at a high level >> within the W3C. There are so many areas it is relevant to, from >> representation in standards groups to biased algorithms [1], to >> proliferation of hate on the web, that it seems like an overarching concern. >> >> Thanks >> Marisa >> >> 1. https://www.parkersoftware.com/blog/racism-in-technology-how-our-tools-acquire-bias/ >> >> >> >>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 12:26, Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org >>> <mailto:jeff@w3.org>> wrote: >>> >>> All interesting ideas. >>> >>> I particularly like the idea of providing equipment which can help >>> people both in the specific TPAC meeting, but can also improve >>> people's effectiveness beyond. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> On 6/5/2020 3:21 PM, Reid, Wendy wrote: >>>> I definitely want to lead with action, but if we don't make a >>>> statement, no one will know what action we intend to take, and if we >>>> make a statement with no planned actions, it is a toothless one (bit >>>> of a catch-22 I admit!). >>>> >>>> I love the idea of reallocating the scholarship fund to supporting >>>> invited experts. Something along the lines of providing funds to >>>> people for expenses that would make participation easier for TPAC and >>>> possibly long-term would be an interesting approach. I think if we >>>> covered things like short term childcare so people can fully >>>> participate in TPAC, equipment (do they need a webcam, microphone, >>>> headset?), offsetting the costs of attending a meeting for several >>>> days if they're an independent contractor, or other incidentals might >>>> make an impact. >>>> >>>> I'm going to spend the weekend thinking of other actions, I encourage >>>> everyone to do so as well! >>>> >>>> -Wendy >>>> >>>> On 2020-06-05, 12:27 PM, "Daniel Appelquist" <dan@torgo.com >>>> <mailto:dan@torgo.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm in the UK and I'd like to participate if possible. >>>> >>>> FWIW I agree with Chaals regarding actions speaking stronger than >>>> words. The update to the CEPC is one action that I believe will play >>>> a positive role. In addition to that, considering that TPAC is going >>>> to be virtual, could we repurpose the money that member organisations >>>> may have been allocating for a TPAC diversity scholarship fund into >>>> some kind of fund to support "invited experts" engineers from >>>> marginalised communities in w3c working groups? >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >>>> On Friday, 5 June 2020 15:33, Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org >>>> <mailto:jeff@w3.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > I am in Eastern as well. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On 6/5/2020 9:49 AM, Reid, Wendy wrote: >>>> > >>>> >>>> > > I'm in the eastern time zone as well! >>>> > > On 2020-06-05, 9:34 AM, "Siegman, Tzviya" tsiegman@wiley.com >>>> <mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > Thanks for starting the discussion, Wendy. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > I am in US Eastern time. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > Tzviya Siegman >>>> > > Information Standards Lead >>>> > > Wiley >>>> > > 201-748-6884 >>>> > > tsiegman@wiley.com <mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > -----Original Message----- >>>> > > From: Léonie Watson <lwatson@tetralogical.com >>>> <mailto:lwatson@tetralogical.com>> >>>> > > Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 3:20 AM >>>> > > To: Reid, Wendy <wendy.reid@rakuten.com >>>> <mailto:wendy.reid@rakuten.com>>; public-idcg@w3.org >>>> <mailto:public-idcg@w3.org> >>>> > > Subject: Re: W3C action/response to the BLM Movement >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > ⛔ This is an external email. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > Thank you for raising this Wendy. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > I agree that we should take this opportunity to build on >>>> the progress we've made by establishing this CG and the diversity >>>> fund, and what the PWE CG has done with the Code of Ethics and >>>> Professional Conduct (CEPC), because there is so much more we could do. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > A call would be a good place to share ideas and >>>> suggestions, and of course this thread too. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > Scheduling calls is often an interesting challenge when >>>> the participants come from many different places. As a first step >>>> could I ask anyone who would be interested in attending a call to let >>>> me know which time zone you are in? Email me at >>>> lwatson@tetralogical.com <mailto:lwatson@tetralogical.com> if you do >>>> not want to share that information on this thread. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > If you could do that by the end of your day on Tuesday 9 >>>> June), I will then try to find some meeting times that could work and >>>> put together a Doodle poll so we can decide. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > The W3C has changed to using Zoom for conference calls. >>>> If anyone has access or other needs that means we need to adapt the >>>> way we use Zoom, or even find another platform if we need to, please >>>> let me know - and again, you are welcome to email me directly. >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > Léonie. >>>> > > On 05/06/2020 00:03, Reid, Wendy wrote: >>>> > > > Dear Colleagues, >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I hope everyone has been keeping well and safe during >>>> these times. I >>>> > > > wanted to reach out to this group as I believe we need >>>> to do something >>>> > > > to address the W3C’s lack of diversity and inclusion >>>> in 2020, a time >>>> > > > where we see protests for the rights of black people >>>> take over not >>>> > > > just the United States and Canada, but many other >>>> places as well. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > The web is a platform for many great things, including >>>> the organizing >>>> > > > for many of these protests and movements, but it is >>>> also where world >>>> > > > leaders make threats and groups gather to profess >>>> hate. As an >>>> > > > organization we’ve built specifications around the >>>> ideas of >>>> > > > inclusivity, security, and privacy, but the faces in >>>> the rooms where >>>> > > > these discussions are held still do not reflect the >>>> makeup of the >>>> > > > world around us. Tech, and by extension the W3C, is >>>> notoriously male and white. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I notice that W3C has not yet made a public statement >>>> about their >>>> > > > support for the Black Lives Matter movement, and I >>>> wanted to come here >>>> > > > because if/when that happens, the logical request will >>>> be for what >>>> > > > actions is W3C intending to make to address our lack >>>> of diversity. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > So I raise the question here first, because I think >>>> everyone here is >>>> > > > of the mind that we should do something. I do think >>>> this should be a >>>> > > > sentiment and action that comes from W3M, the AB, AC, >>>> and the members >>>> > > > as a whole, but I hope we can come up with a starting >>>> point for >>>> > > > everyone to build off of. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > What should W3C do about the lack of diversity in our >>>> working groups >>>> > > > and F2F meetings? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > How can we as an organization support community >>>> members who are >>>> > > > limited in participation by factors like economics, >>>> family situation, geography? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > What actions should we take to recruit more members >>>> from diverse >>>> > > > backgrounds and retain them once they are here? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I propose we have a call soon to discuss these >>>> matters, but I will >>>> > > > leave that judgement to the chairs. Thank you for your >>>> consideration. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Sincerely, >>>> > > > Wendy Reid >>>> > > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> > > -- >>>> > > Director @TetraLogical >>>> > > >>>> >>>>
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