Re: Request for consensus to add text in the BLM statement

I'm okay with the original suggestion and Marisa's change, but I doubt 
that the formal objection will be addressed by the latter.

-Annette

On 8/21/20 10:26 AM, Teixeira, Mateus wrote:
>
> I’m ok with the originally proposed change, but I prefer Marisa’s 
> suggestion. So--
>
> +0 on the original proposal.
>
> +1 to Marisa’s addition of “against marginalized communities.”
>
> Best,
>
> Mateus
>
> *From: *"Reid, Wendy" <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>
> *Date: *Friday, August 21, 2020 at 5:58 AM
> *To: *Tobie Langel <tobie@unlockopen.com>, Daniel Appelquist 
> <dan@torgo.com>
> *Cc: *Inclusion and Diversity Community Group <public-idcg@w3.org>, 
> Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>, vagner <vagner@nic.br>
> *Subject: *Re: Request for consensus to add text in the BLM statement
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> +1 to Marisa’s rewording
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> *From:*Tobie Langel <tobie@unlockopen.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2020 7:09:32 AM
> *To:* Daniel Appelquist <dan@torgo.com>
> *Cc:* Inclusion and Diversity Community Group <public-idcg@w3.org>; 
> Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>; vagner <vagner@nic.br>
> *Subject:* Re: Request for consensus to add text in the BLM statement
>
> +1 to Marisa’s rewording too.
>
> —tobie
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:39 Daniel Appelquist <dan@torgo.com 
> <mailto:dan@torgo.com>> wrote:
>
>     I was Ok with the original proposal, and definite +1 to the
>     Marisa's proposed rewording.
>
>     Dan
>
>     ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
>     On Thursday, 20 August 2020 23:36, vagner <vagner@nic.br
>     <mailto:vagner@nic.br>> wrote:
>
>         Much better this addition.
>
>         Vagner.
>
>         Enviado do meu Samsung Mobile da Claro
>
>         -------- Mensagem original --------
>
>         De : Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com
>         <mailto:marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>>
>
>         Data: 20/08/2020 18:56 (GMT-03:00)
>
>         Para: Inclusion and Diversity Community Group
>         <public-idcg@w3.org <mailto:public-idcg@w3.org>>
>
>         Assunto: Re: Request for consensus to add text in the BLM
>         statement
>
>         -1
>
>         I am afraid of our statement having a subtext that equates
>         endorsing BLM with endorsing violence. Because otherwise why
>         would we feel the need to add that line? This was never
>         supposed to be a statement about all the things we support and
>         don’t support. It’s specifically a statement of support for BLM.
>
>         I would however be happy with adding this:
>
>         "We unequivocally stand against racism, injustice, and
>         violence against marginalized communities.”
>
>         Marisa
>
>         > On Aug 20, 2020, at 10:47, Ralph Swick <swick@w3.org
>         <mailto:swick@w3.org>> wrote:
>
>         >
>
>         > IDCG Participants,
>
>         >
>
>         > As you know, the W3C Process allows for formal objections to
>         a group decision.  A formal objection is a request to the W3C
>         Director to consider when evaluating the related decision.
>
>         >
>
>         > During the W3C Member review of the proposed W3C Statement
>         on Black Lives Matter a formal objection was raised.  I have
>         been delegated to try to find a consensus resolution to this
>         formal objection on behalf
>
>         > of the W3C Director.
>
>         >
>
>         > I share with you part of the objector's statement and
>         following that a change (addition) to the text of the BLM
>         statement. The objector has confirmed that this would resolve
>         the objection to their satisfaction.
>
>         >
>
>         > Quoting from the objector's statement:
>
>         >
>
>         > "I believe it is important to clearly state what we _do_ and
>         _do not_
>
>         > support as W3C organization. We support true equality, we
>         support any
>
>         > lawful action that aims to fight injustice, but we do not
>         condone
>
>         > violence or destruction of property. In numerous cases, the
>         peaceful
>
>         > protests for right social cause were hijacked by radical
>         extremists,
>
>         > and their violent actions [that clearly deviate from the
>         established
>
>         > social norms and the rule of law] only diminish the
>         importance of
>
>         > "Black Lives Matter" message. I do not believe that being
>         vocal about
>
>         > the rightful cause while being silent about radical
>         violations of
>
>         > social norms sends the right message - we all know too well that
>
>         > silence is approval. We do not tolerate any behaviors that
>         violate
>
>         > our own social norms, we openly speak against any violations
>         of the
>
>         > W3C Code of Conduct - I do not see why our stance on the larger
>
>         > social issue should be any different.
>
>         >
>
>         > "Our stated position should clearly communicate the fact
>         that while
>
>         > we do support all marginalized and underrepresented
>         communities, and
>
>         > we support their fight for true equality, we do not condone any
>
>         > violence or unlawful actions!"
>
>         >
>
>         > The objector states they will withdraw their Formal
>         Objection to the proposed statement if the following sentence
>         is incorporated into paragraph 6:
>
>         >
>
>         >  "As an organization, W3C believes that Black Lives Matter.
>
>         >  /+We unequivocally stand against racism, injustice, and
>         violence.+/
>
>         >  We also stand in support of our Indigenous colleagues,
>         colleagues
>
>         >  of color, LGBTQI+ colleagues, and colleagues with disabilities.
>
>         >
>
>         > I solicit your view on this change, preferably no later than
>         27 August.
>
>         >
>
>         > Regards,
>
>         > Ralph Swick, W3C
>
>         >
>
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Annette Greiner (she)
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