RE: U+1822 - finalizing all variants

Hi Badral,

Could you give us some images of the two glyphs in actual words?
That would make sure that we all understand the situation you are describing.

Are there other glyphs that you see not specified?
We are just about ready to wrap up our discussions, so now is the time to raise last issues.

Thanks,
Greg


From: Badral S. [mailto:badral@bolorsoft.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:14 AM
To: public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org
Subject: Re: U+1822 - finalizing all variants

Hi Greg,
F+FVS1 [cid:image001.png@01D10435.4113F5E0] is not only occurred after the consonants with bow (bi. Gi. Hi. ki pi fi) but also may be used for every foreign words. Thus, we didn't find better way to combine it with FVS1. Of course, we added the calt rules for final 1822 after bi, pi, fi etc.
F+FVS2 is accusative form after consonants and first form of ja, je (bui za, bui ze). Currently, it is not distinguished in every font but in real life it's slightly different. BS just planned to add it by calt rules. But additionally, Mr. Jamyansuren has requested to add a final form, which is mostly used to write poems. It seems like stretched. I will send you it's picture, when I take it from Mr. Jamyansuren. If we reserve F+FVS2, that won't hurt or?

BTW: There is also one additional medial form of 1822, which is occurred in medieval scripts before consonant DA like final I. If we don't have free slots (FVSs), we can ignore it.

Badral

On 09.10.2015 15:22, Greg Eck wrote:
Sorry, I missed one comment on Bolorsoft.
There is one suggestion of a variant at F+FVS1 [cid:image001.png@01D10435.4113F5E0] .
As this is a variant used only in a ligature, I suggest that it does not need an explicit FVS assignment. It will never appear in isolation. And if we begin to consider all of the variant forms that the ligatures bring in, there will be no end.

There is also a suggested F+FVS2 that is very similar to the current final. Badral, could you comment further on this? I do not see a distinction between the current Final and the suggested F+FVS2 as listed in the comments on the Font Comparator site.

Thanks,
Greg


From: Greg Eck [mailto:greck@postone.net]
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 9:12 PM
To: public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org<mailto:public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org>
Subject: U+1822 - finalizing all variants

Let’s look at U+1822 together …

It appears that we are all in general agreement here except possibly on placement of the new medial variants.
I will leave them as is unless there is further discussion here.

Greg




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